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1 posted on 03/14/2013 4:00:56 AM PDT by IbJensen
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Why are we not surprised??


2 posted on 03/14/2013 4:08:08 AM PDT by RAY (God Bless the USA!)
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I believe it. There’s no way Barry is smart enough to pull off what he’s done. He’s someone elses puppet.


3 posted on 03/14/2013 4:10:37 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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I’m quite certain that if push came to shove Michelle’s Secret Service detail would be pulled before Valerie Jarrett’s.


4 posted on 03/14/2013 4:16:02 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check selects every single word in my post.)
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Similar thing happened with the Somali pirates.

The on scene Commander called for the shot that rescued the crew and ship.

That wasn’t authorized by the White House, but was endorsed only after the success.


6 posted on 03/14/2013 4:23:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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Totally believable for me. 0bama is the delegator in chief and comes across as a henpecked man, always being led around by the nose by strong-personalitied women. Valerie Jarrett is the most dangerous woman in America.


7 posted on 03/14/2013 4:26:27 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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Obama is out of his depth AND scared of his own shadow.

Unless action or statements are pressed on him from elsewhere and outside .... he is clueless.

It shows in everything he does and says, when unscripted. The guy is a BOUNDER!

9 posted on 03/14/2013 4:41:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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There’s long been speculation that the raid that did go forward was timed to occur when Jarrett was absent; I think it likely that the CIA/military folks who wanted the mission to proceed arranged the particular timing so that Obama would have virtually zero time to provide a “go” or “no go” decision, so that he could not wait until he could get hold of Jarrett.


10 posted on 03/14/2013 4:42:43 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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We knew this in the days after the raid, as it came out from frustrated White House insiders.

I am confident Obama would have eventually pulled the trigger, but would have waited until the 2012 election was well underway. A perfect October Surprise!


11 posted on 03/14/2013 4:44:55 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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No doubt in my mind that this is true. I knew something didn’t pass the smell test when he made the announcement and over did it with the “I’s” and “me’s”. You could see that he looked shell shocked and was trying to convince everyone he was in charge.
12 posted on 03/14/2013 4:47:10 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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In preparation for the propaganda film Zero Dark Thirty, the intelligence community hemorrhaged classified information about the Osama Bin Laden raid to mega-director Kathryn Bigelow, expecting a hagiographic ode to Obama. But Obama and Hollywood blacklisted the movie for portraying torture as the key to getting Osama Bin Laden. Additionally, Obama was merely given a “cameo,” in which after almost thirty minutes of non-stop torture, including waterboarding, Obama appears on a TV screen in one of his idiotic softball interviews, castigating the use of torture in the previous administration and vociferously stating that he had stamped out the practice in his own administration. Obama is made to look like a fool, and his administration is portrayed as a bunch of paper pushers who could care less about avenging the deaths of thousands of Americans for the events on 9/11.

Damn. Is this true? I might have to watch that movie....I was certain Bigelow would put out a pro-Obama campaign commercial.

13 posted on 03/14/2013 4:50:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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....enemies both foreign and domestic...

We have both in the Soetoro Regime.

15 posted on 03/14/2013 4:54:21 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.”

He didn't look very happy, either.

This after-action photo-op shows a late-arriving Obama sitting in the corner as an afterthought. He is still wearing his golf clothes, and it is clear that he did not have a seat at the main table as this operation unfolded.

16 posted on 03/14/2013 4:55:13 AM PDT by Hoodat (I stand with Rand.)
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It might explain Obama’s actions of replacing the top brass. Can’t have any more necessary military decisions being done without Obama’s, or Jarrett’s say so.


18 posted on 03/14/2013 4:57:46 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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If true, this strengthens my belief that the military would refuse possible illegal orders from Obama & Co. for military actions within our borders and/or against law abiding Americans.

Contrary to some conspiracy theorists here, Obama has no chance of taking over the country as emperor or dictator. I don't believe our military would allow it.

19 posted on 03/14/2013 4:59:23 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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I am convinced that the next president -- Republican, Democrat or Other -- has the opportunity to be the Greatest President in our History just by being there and actually governing without throwing tantrums and hissy fits.

If they actually Do Their Job and fix this country -- economy, security, jobs, etc -- they might be able to rival Reagan. ("might")

28 posted on 03/14/2013 5:29:22 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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What many folks fail to understand is this is his management style. And with minor exception it is working for him and the people who control him. He and his cabel have no problem throwing others under the bus as they are all considered expendable.


29 posted on 03/14/2013 5:35:42 AM PDT by Portcall24
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Not quite.

Obama and Jarrett would NOT sign off on the raid, but Hillary and Panetta pushed the raid. We knew in Feb. 2011 where Bin Laden (or whomever we really did kill, as I don’t think Binnie made it out of Tora Bora alive)was.

The deal that was struck was that Panetta could order the raid, but if it failed, Obama was NOT taking the blame. Panetta would shoulder the blame alone. If the raid was successful, Obama would take the credit.

To me, this echoes the night of Benghazi. I beleive Stevens was to be kidnapped and held for ransom, but Obama was double crossed. Since Stevens was going to be a hostage under the original plan, Obama had to be seen as having nothing to do with anything that night. There was not going to be a firefight or anything. Then Obama would ride to the rescue, and have an Sept./Oct. surprise to knock Romney off the front pages, and be acclaimed a hands-on hero.

The script did not go that way. Obama was double crossed. Clinton was in on it also, and who knows who else.

There are more lies and cover-ups on Benghazi that there ever were in Watergate or Iran-Contra. But because it is Zippy’s and Clinton’s oxen being gored, there is a full tilt cover-up in play.

To understand Obama, you have to realize that he is merely a mouthpiece for other forces, he has no love for this country, no executive ability whatsoever, and is the laziest person in DC.

With a dementia afflicted moron as Vice President, our nation is in danger—bigtime.

The only thing Obama remotely gets involved in is drone attacks. On Tuesdays he selects the target, and gets off watching the snuff films of the target-de-jour getting killed.

Source: Washington Insider of Ulsterman. We don’t link to them from FR, but the WI called this a year before it became public, how this Binnie raid actually went down.

There was no coup d’etat. Just Zippy once again failing to do his job as CinC ad to take responsibility for anything.
Even cancelling the White House tours.


32 posted on 03/14/2013 5:43:43 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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This is a good insight into the most incompetent White Houses ever.


33 posted on 03/14/2013 5:48:38 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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Isn't it odd that Jarett is rarely if at all interviewed on camera, or in print?

5.56mm

36 posted on 03/14/2013 5:54:22 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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The official WH photot of the situation room supports your story. Obama looks like the least significant person in the room.


37 posted on 03/14/2013 5:54:37 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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