[Jeff Winston]

It's called Presumption of Fact.

Go play your little games with yourself.

There is only "presumption of fact" if I don't have evidence to back the facts. But I do.

And you obviously know this. You are obviously FEARFUL of agreeing to the PROPOSITION I have made.

Why are you fearful?

You are fearful because you really, really WANT to believe Vattel's book controls the definition of "natural born citizen." Because you have a vested interest in that.

For one thing, you've said it. Publicly. So if I'm right, then if you are honest, you will have to admit that you were wrong. And admitting you were wrong is a bit, well, unpleasant. Embarassing, maybe.

I understand that.

But how about this? It is better to have admitted you were wrong, and to then be correct, than it is to stay stuck in your wrongness.

Isn't it?

And do you know what? All of us are wrong from time to time. It's no disgrace. ALL of us are wrong sometimes. I am, too.

Or would you rather be stuck on wrong?

Please tell me. Would you rather be stuck on wrong, stubbornly denying reality? Or would you rather know the truth, and be on the side of the truth?

[MamaTexan]

There is only "presumption of fact" if I don't have evidence to back the facts. But I do.

The evidence of which is only your word for it.

Which was, rather, my point.

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Would you rather be stuck on wrong, stubbornly denying reality? Or would you rather know the truth, and be on the side of the truth?

I'd rather have someone give me the courtesy of presenting their evidence like an adult, not dancing about attempting to play some type of childish, demented 'gotcha' game.

And wipe off that projectionist brush of yours. You're confusing fear with utter disgust.