[chaosagent]

Excuse Me! If you are born abroad to American Citizens you are an American Citizen by birth and most likely the birth was recorded at a US Consulate. John Mc Cain was born in Panama. Many US “Natural Born” Citizens are born abroad to U.S. Servicemen serving overseas. Are they ineligible too? You are $#%&%!

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Many people take the strict ‘Vattel’ view that a “Natural Born Citizen” is one born on American soil to two American citizen parents.

Why do you think there was a Senate Resolution declaring John McCain a “Natural Born Citizen” before the 2008 election? He was born of two American citizen parents, but not on American soil. And before you say it, McCain was not born in the American Canal Zone. He was born in a Panamanian hospital.

Many people think there is a difference between a “Natural Born Citizen”, a Citizen, and a Naturalized Citizen. Otherwise why would it be specifically mentioned in the Constitution.

[Zuse]

At this point even an anchor baby could become president.

[X-spurt]

I think the reason the dem Senate got into this declaration per McCain was to give “precedent” cover to nobama.

[CharlesWayneCT]

And the McCain case is different in another way — he was born in Panama, but it was a military base thing; it is somewhat reasonable to treat foreign American military bases as if they are “U.S. Soil”, just as you would treat the Embassy as being born on U.S. soil.

The real issue is that the PURPOSE of having the rule makes little sense in regards to some of these particular cases.

The idea was that they wanted people who grew up in the United States, not people who lived their lives in another country and would be swayed by that country.

And when the country was founded, it would be highly unlikely any woman would be “vacationing” in a different country and have their baby. You really didn’t travel that much.

Today, anybody can hope in a plane, and be around the world tomorrow. And be back the next day.

Did Cruz live any significant time in Canada? Then I would argue he is ineligible by the intent of the constitution.

But certainly if someone was on vacation and had a child, and then brought the child home at the end of the vacation, I’d say that the INTENT of the constitutional law is met.

I also do think the congress would have the right, within limits, to define the parameters of “natural born citizen”.

The problem I had with the Obama questions is this — suppose a woman is single, and has a baby through a sperm bank.

Does that child then have to prove the father was an american citizen to be eligible for President? Some here would argue yes — that BOTH parents must by American. I’m not so sure. I don’t see where the intent (that you don’t have parents who have divided loyalties) would be an issue if the father was unknown.

Imagine if Ronald Reagan, the day before he was sworn in, we found out his mother had actually had an affair with a foreign actor, and Reagan was HIS son. Would he have then been ineligible? I think not.

[DiogenesLamp]

And before you say it, McCain was not born in the American Canal Zone. He was born in a Panamanian hospital.

I have debunked this a dozen times, yet still people don't get the message. You are wrong. McCain was indeed born *ON* the American base in the Panama Canal zone.

Link to Washington Post article.

[urtax$@work]

Many people take the strict ‘Vattel’ view that a “Natural Born Citizen” is one born on American soil to two American citizen parents. Why do you think there was a Senate Resolution declaring John McCain a “Natural Born Citizen” before the 2008 election?

yep, and i dont think senate resolutions trump the Constitution.