Wow. Those are so rare. Thank you.
1 Has anyone ever run for president (general election or his party’s primaries) that did not meet the two citizen parent requirement?
First, Chester A Arthur ran for Vice-President. His father was born in Ireland, and had not naturalized at the time that Arthur ran for VP.
A better example is John Charles Fremont, the very first REPUBLICAN candidate for President. Before Lincoln. Lincoln was second.
Fremont was the US-born son of a Frenchman who never naturalized, never had any intention of naturalizing, and was doing his best to leave the US and take his family to France when he died, leaving them permanently resident here.
And he ran VERY, VERY OPENLY as the son of an unnaturalized Frenchman.
2 Were any of them challenged on those grounds?
NO.
Arthur was in fact challenged on the supposed grounds that he was not a natural born citizen. He was accused first of having been born in Ireland. When that was shown to be bogus, he was then accused of having been born in Canada.
It doesn't seem to have even OCCURRED to his enemies to try and claim he was ineligible because of a non-citizen father. And they were digging as hard as they could.
As for Fremont, absolutely no challenge that I could find any record of. After reading about him, I looked.
He ran for President, and lost. But there is no sign anyone ever cared that he was the son of an obvious Frenchman who only wanted to leave the United States and get back to France. Or that anyone ever had the slightest idea that he was thereby ineligible to the Presidency.
The history and law are all consistent. You see birthers blowing enough smoke that they make it look like there's inconsistency, but in spite of all the cases that they twist and misinterpret, there REALLY IS NOT.
The claim that it EVER took citizen parents to make a natural born citizen is simply and absolutely false.
Do you ever actually read what you write, after you've written it?
Do you believe that a child born in the country of two citizen parents is a natural born citizen?
Do you believe that a child born outside the country of two citizen parents is a natural born citizen? If so, why? You've stated with a great deal of comical bombast that EVER making such a claim is absolutely false.
What do citizen parents bestow upon a child at birth outside the country, that they somehow don't bestow upon a child at birth within the country?
You're one-a them anti-McCain birthers, ain'tcha?
You state this about John Fremont:
“And he ran VERY, VERY OPENLY as the son of an unnaturalized Frenchman.”
Show me the archival evidence that show his quotes from the campaign trail stating his father was a ‘unnaturalized’ Frenchman.
Thank you.
You state:
“The claim that it EVER took citizen parents to make a natural born citizen is simply and absolutely false.”
Senate Resolution 511 affirming John McCain was eligible stated:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/sres511/text
[Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to ‘American citizens’ on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.]
So it clearly states that because McCain’s parents (plural) were U.S. citizens, that made him a natural born citizen.
“As for Fremont, absolutely no challenge that I could find any record of. After reading about him, I looked.
“He ran for President, and lost. But there is no sign anyone ever cared that he was the son of an obvious Frenchman who only wanted to leave the United States and get back to France. Or that anyone ever had the slightest idea that he was thereby ineligible to the Presidency.”
Jeff Winston, you missed the fact that Fremont’s biological father was not his legal father. Fremont’s legal parents were both NBC. Under international law at the time a child does not receive nationality from a father outside of wedlock and all children born in legal marriage are children of the marriage whether biological or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Fr%C3%A9mont
Frémont’s mother, Anne Beverley Whiting, was the youngest daughter of socially prominent Virginia planter Col. Thomas Whiting. The colonel died when Anne was less than a year old. Her mother married Samuel Cary, who soon exhausted most of the Whiting estate. At age 17 Anne married Major John Pryor, a wealthy Richmond resident in his early 60s. In 1810 Pryor hired Charles Fremon, a French immigrant who had fought with the Royalists during the French Revolution, to tutor his wife. In July 1811 Pryor learned that his wife and Fremon were having an affair. Confronted by Pryor, the couple left Richmond together on July 10, 1811, creating a scandal that shook city society.[6] Pryor published a divorce petition in the Virginia Patriot, in which he charged that his wife had “for some time past indulged in criminal intercourse.” Mrs. Pryor and Fremon moved first to Norfolk, Virginia, to live as man and wife (though unmarried); they later settled in Savannah, Georgia. Mrs. Pryor financed the trip and purchase of a house in Savannah by selling recently inherited slaves valued at $1,900. When the Virginia House of Delegates refused Mr. Pryor’s divorce petition, it was impossible for the couple to marry. In Savannah, Mrs. Pryor took in boarders while Fremon taught French and dancing. On January 21, 1813, their first child, John Charles Fremon, was born.[7] The son was born out of wedlock, a serious social handicap.