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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Who's a "typical liberal"? Got that phrase stored on one of your keyboard keys? You have simply reinforced my original opinion of you, which is that you are a parrot, not a thinker. I am a conservative, if you ever bothered to read anything I've posted.

The skeletons of the Masada martyrs which have been recovered have been lovingly and respectfully buried near the Roman earth ramp which allowed the invasion of that mountainous sanctuary.

Do not attempt to apply NON-JEWISH laws and NON-JEWISH opinions of what is proper to Jews. Throughout history, capture by non-Jews and the resultant prospect of slavery made suicide an acceptable option according to Jewish law, if the alternative was forcible conversion or being forced to commit immoral sexual acts. There were many such martyrdoms performed by Jews. Hundreds of Jewish youths and maidens jumped overboard to drown from Roman slave ships because they knew they would be forced to perform lewd immoral acts as slaves, and this was in accordance with Jewish law. The Talmud even praises their sacrifice as "saintly". During the Holocaust, Jewish seminary girls also killed themselves rather than be used by the Nazi in immoral acts.

49 posted on 03/03/2013 6:06:28 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
No one was implying forcing any Jew to follow a directive. And, thanks for replying with some points of argument instead of name-calling. If Jews wish to martyr themselves, fine with me. It's a real gray area in regards to how the New Testament God and Jesus might see that, Talmud notwithstanding.

I also can completely understand your point of view about someone disagreeing with you. You have no idea on that one how much we are in an imbalance on what should be done about that. At present, we are not enemies...the enemy is the leftist government types trying to kill both you and me. Might be good to remember that. I do believe the government is attempting to provoke a revolution to give government an opportunity to make an example out of people to frighten everyone else into compliance. It's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out.

50 posted on 03/03/2013 7:09:31 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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