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Pennsylvania Democrat’s Gun Control Insurance
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-28-13 | CJ

Posted on 02/28/2013 5:26:06 PM PST by Starman417

Representative Ronald Waters of Pennsylvania is a Democrat serving part Delaware and Philadephia Counties (you know, the ones that voted 100% for Obama in the last election).

This month, he submitted House Bill 521 that has been referred to the Judiciary Committee and is expected to die there. However, it's still important to point out what this bill does and highlight the gun control schemes being thrown about legislatures around the country.

Waters' bill would require every person licensed to carry a concealed firearm to purchase and maintain $1 million in "firearm liability insurance." Anyone not possessing such insurance would be banned from defending themselves with a concealed firearm.

In essence, the bill translates a firearm into a virtually living thing. It is meant to "satisfy any judgment for personal injuries or property damages arising out of NEGLIGENT OR WILLFUL ACTS INVOLVING USE OF AN INSURED FIREARM," emphasis mine. Interestingly, however, the insurance CANNOT cover unlawful acts. So, if your gun is stolen and used in a crime, your insurance won't help you I guess.

So, supposing this were the law of the land in Pennsylvania, if I use my insured gun in a "willful" and presumably lawful act, what do I need insurance for? Negligence is obvious, but the rest makes no sense.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2nd; banglist; blogpimp; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/28/2013 5:26:16 PM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Chances are there aren’t many insurance companies you could buy a policy from.


2 posted on 02/28/2013 5:28:26 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Ok, so lets assume for the moment that such insurance were available, and mandatory.

Further, were I to shoot someone who was “trespassing against me” to use a biblical term. It would be in my interest to make certain that the offender did not survive such an encounter lest he sue me, and my insurance would make him and his relatives “lottery winners”. Further you could see them making it a “no fault” type of policy which pays no matter what.

I say to these ass clowns...legislate away. I will not comply, period.


3 posted on 02/28/2013 5:50:46 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Starman417

See the next step. After mandating liability insurance, they may try to hike awards for damages, thereby driving premiums further up. And for CO, they’re probably planning to mandate insurance later on against every owner of a firearm.

Colorado lawmaker proposes liability law for assault weapons owners, sellers
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2991863/posts


4 posted on 02/28/2013 6:16:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Starman417

The democrats are going to get slaughtered in the 2014 mid terms elections. Pennsylvania (outside Philly) is extremely pro-gun.


5 posted on 02/28/2013 6:28:47 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Starman417

Attach a rider to the bill requiring all applicants for a voter card to pass a written Constitution test, in english, created by a truly bipartisan group of lawmakers, and the test cannot be read to the applicant.


6 posted on 02/28/2013 7:00:09 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Starman417

Low information voters have been far more destructive than law-abiding CC permit holders. When do we start requiring that this class of voter be administered (and pass) a current events or history test before voting.... or... require a $1M insurance policy to pay off the civil rights lawsuits they should face for their role in a conspiracy to violate other citizen’s constitutional rights?


7 posted on 02/28/2013 7:01:46 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Starman417

Mandatory insurance is a bad idea, but if I owned a gun I’d probably carry insurance anyway. And I’d demand a break on my home insurance premiums because I can defend my property.


8 posted on 02/28/2013 7:27:22 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: Starman417

They shouldn’t let criminals out of jail unless they purchase a million dollar liability policy.


9 posted on 02/28/2013 10:17:05 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: Starman417

I love open carry.


10 posted on 03/01/2013 2:13:29 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: exnavy
I love open carry.

Open carry with a concealed backup to really throw them off...

11 posted on 03/01/2013 4:34:29 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Starman417

How about insurance for chain saws and Cutco knives?


12 posted on 03/01/2013 4:44:03 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Starman417

We in Delco did ***NOT*** vote 100% for Obama. Take out Chester and we probably voted mostly Romney. By the way, Joe Hackett (R) is my state rep and Dominic Pileggi (R) is my state senator (he is the one who introduced the bill to switch us to proportional electoral apportionment). The GOP still rns this county.


13 posted on 03/01/2013 7:49:06 AM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: Starman417

Sometimes it seems as though every Democrat in the US is doing his level best to shred the constitution.

Somneone should remind these idiots that America is a republic, not a monarchy, and Obama is president, not king.


14 posted on 03/01/2013 8:04:23 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: 2banana

Nope.
There is over a year between now and the next elections. The bills will, likely, fail or be dropped and the sheeple will have forgotten by November, 2014.
The folks who remember this sort of stuff pretty much already have their minds made up, so they don’t matter.


15 posted on 03/01/2013 8:05:25 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Rodamala

Even most Democrats in southwest Pennsylvania are embarrassed by abject idiots like this. We need to vote them out of the commonwealth and they can take their constituencies with them to New Jersey.


16 posted on 03/01/2013 9:34:25 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Starman417

This is an old idea.

When Tennessee decided to allow concealed carry, the Legislature required CC holders to have such insurance (among other distasteful requirements). Prospective CC holders had some rather frank discussions with the legislators, telling them they would carry concealed without a permit if these conditions were not changed, and the legislator who did not vote to relax it would no longer be a legislator.

Tennessee then became a “shall issue” State, without onorous restrictions.


17 posted on 03/01/2013 9:54:13 PM PST by Mack the knife
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