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To: HarleyD

Lot certainly is set in contrast to Abraham, and is an example of weak Christianity, and who has little salt and seemingly little weight of credibility (though even the apostles also mocked), but my point is that if Lot was so, then what about the present state in which you will find few constraining strangers or even brethren to lodge with them in a strange city at nigh (I have some experience), and risk his own for theirs, even if it indicated a lack of judgment. And have virgin daughters and other married ones in Sodom no less, despite his lack of judgment and apparent carnal reasoning in choosing it.

But as for Lot tormenting his righteous soul “he was” tormenting his soul as in being grieved by it (and we should be in American), by choosing to stay and care for strangers and keep sodomites out of his house.

But how many will move from America as iniquity abounds? Meanwhile, fornication abounds among “Christian” teens, and not just the world.

As for enjoying the cushiness of his life (what sitting in the gate presumes), how many believers are not seeking to be productive for the Lord today? How much money is wasted on entertainment and other things? How little goes toward the Lord’s work? Look at the stats http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.htm

Anyway, my point is certainty not to make excuses for the fleeting pleasures of this world, but that while Lot is presented as the worst kind of Christian, he looks good in some respects compare with the norm today.


75 posted on 02/23/2013 3:08:14 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
But how many will move from America as iniquity abounds?

And that was my original point. Where would one move to? Austria? Asia? Africa? Europe? They all have gone this way. While sin is sin, there are degrees of sin and homosexuality is just about the lowest on the food chain. The embracing of homosexuality throughout the world should be an indication to Christians of something bad. Very bad.

I know Christians have been saying the end was upon them for 2100 years. But let's look at this rationally (not to say Paul wasn't rational). In the past believers like Abraham could simply move out to the desert and let God take care of the matter in localized areas like Sodom. Now believers can't move from these places even if we wanted to. We are unable to hide from the wrath to come. The world is deliberately vexing the Holy Spirit who works through believers. And while some of us might be like Lot, many of us are more like Abraham wanting to stay away from the situation all the while praying for these people. We have become like the days of Noah where we are building an ark while people laugh at it.

The world is coming into final judgment. We just need to understand this.

87 posted on 02/24/2013 3:45:15 AM PST by HarleyD
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