It’s Not Easy Being Red and Green

Sultan Knish ^ | Feb 16, 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

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[Perseverando]

[laker_dad]

Keep your stick on the ice...

[SampleMan]

The left has never adapted to the transition from nationalistic wars to ideological wars. It took the left a while to grasp that the Nazis were a fundamentally different foe than the Kaiser and that pretending that World War 2 was another war for the benefit of colonialists and arms dealers was the behavior of deluded lunatics. And yet much of the left insisted on approaching the war in just that fashion, and had Hitler not attacked Stalin, it might have remained stuck there.

People used to talk about WWII being the time when America was united, but the truth is that the Left in the U.S. was extremely anti-war right to the day that Hitler invaded the USSR. Then they spun 180 degrees and started to call for the U.S. to enter the war immediately to "stop Hitler".

As soon as the war ended, the U.S. Left set about giving our secrets to the Soviets and doing everything they could to work against us.

[Yardstick]

Brilliant stuff. He is so right about the self-centeredness and blind intellectual rigidity of the left. The left truly lives in a dream world that doesn’t account for the intelligence and ideological drivenness of other movements. The left is only able to see them as victims struggling against Western imperialism per its limited model (or its narrow view through the garret window as he puts it). He is really on to something here.

*Bump*

[left that other site]

Marxism was already outmoded by the time I read “The Communist Manifest” back in the sixties. I remember reading Marx’s “predictions” about the “withering away of the state” and the “dictatorship of the proletariat” and realizing, even as a 16 year old hippie, that Marx had been totally refuted and discredited by HISTORY.

The left must have complete blinders on...and willfully so.

Brilliant, as Usual, Sultan!

[Pollster1]

The left's rigid view of history has caused it problems before. It rejected Zionism as a historical aberration, and spent over a century fighting against the idea with spiteful hate, propaganda, terrorism and tanks. In the left's view of history, a Jewish State is an attempt to turn back time by building a state whose roots are in religious scripture. Israel is ahistorical and must therefore be destroyed.

Nice observation. I've never understood the left's anti-Israel stance, and this is a logical explanation that I'll have to give serious thought.

[YankeeReb]

BUMP for later

[South Dakota]

I’ve read the FDR would have left Britian to their own devises if Russia looked like it was going to be overrun

[newfreep]

islam is an evil, leftist political movement like communism but hides behind the veil of a false, satanic “religion”.

The satanic leftists are very good at relabeling their brand names for a more positive image:

Marxists -> Communists -> Progressives -> Liberals -> Progressives

Homosexual -> gay/lesbo/etc

[WhiskeyX]

Some corrections are in order:

“And yet much of the left insisted on approaching the war in just that fashion, and had Hitler not attacked Stalin, it might have remained stuck there.”

The USSR assisted NAZI Germany in its efforts to rebuild the German armed forces, particularly the Luftwaffe, by making its territory and Soviet armed forces available for secret training to circumvent the World War One Armistice terms. During the Second World War, amny German officers who served in the Soviet Union with Soviet commissions and enlistments to circumvent the WWI Armistice were tried for treason against the Soviet Union and executed rather than being retained as prisoners of war (POWs).

Hitler changed his schedule for the invasion of the Soviet Union and postponed further attempts to invade Britain because he became aware of Stalin’s plans and preparations to abrogate the pact and invade through the Eastern Front while Germany’s forces were committed to the battles on the Western Front. Stalin was surprised and disbelieving of Churchill’s warnings about the coming German invasion because Stalin was already convinced that Hitler was comitted to the Western Front as the Soviet forces prepared to invade from the East.
“As soon as the war ended, the U.S. Left set about giving our secrets to the Soviets and doing everything they could to work against us.

“The Left was busy disgorging every bit of secret and non-secret information they could hand over to the Soviets before, during, and after the war. By Agreement, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt handed over tons of U.S. secret documents and weapons to the Soviets. U.S. military police and intelligence services were forbidden by President Roosevelt to inspect or interfere with in any way as the Soviets transported these vital resources out of the United States aboard aircraft and ships. When the U.S. Army Counter-intelligence Corps got to close to the Soveit espionage agents in the Roosevelt Administration and documented Eleanor Roosevelt’s extra=marital affairs, heterosexual and homosexual, he ordered their intelligence files to be destroyed and their units to be transferred to the European Theater of Operations (ETO). The commander of the counter-intelligence unit disobeyed the President’s orders and preserved those intelligence files, while other units complied and destroyed their files implicating Harry Hopkins and other Administration officials in the Soviet espionage. So, the breaches in U.S. security after the end of the war were business as usual for the American Left.

[Chad N. Freud]

We’re forced to duel with Islamism with our right hand only, while our left hand is tied behind our back, trying to stab us.

[sauropod]

If I had a way to post pictures, I would have posted him...

[PapaBear3625]

Marxism was already outmoded by the time I read “The Communist Manifest” back in the sixties. I remember reading Marx’s “predictions” about the “withering away of the state” and the “dictatorship of the proletariat” and realizing, even as a 16 year old hippie, that Marx had been totally refuted and discredited by HISTORY. The left must have complete blinders on...and willfully so.

No, they don't. Never assume that what they say is what they really think. The Left's positions make perfect sense once you just realize that they (or at least their leadership and opinion-molders) are liars who strive for power over others.

[left that other site]

Good point!

I stand corrected. :-)

[Colonel_Flagg]

“And yet much of the left insisted on approaching the war in just that fashion, and had Hitler not attacked Stalin, it might have remained stuck there.”

Events in the United Stats such as the Communist-led North American Aviation strike of 1941 lend credence to this argument. It is also true that prior to the German invasion of the USSR, the British Communist Party philosophically opposed its own government's war effort due to the Nazi-Soviet Pact being in place.

[PapaBear3625]

Events in the United Stats such as the Communist-led North American Aviation strike of 1941 lend credence to this argument. It is also true that prior to the German invasion of the USSR, the British Communist Party philosophically opposed its own government's war effort due to the Nazi-Soviet Pact being in place.

I would imagine that part of the deal was that the USSR would use its control over the various Communist organizations in the US, UK, and Europe to prevent effective opposition to Germany. It may be why France folded so quickly -- they had lots of Communists.

[GOPJ]

During WW2, Trotskyist unions in the UK claimed that American troops weren't coming to help fight Hitler, but to break up labor protests. That same obtuse obliviousness, the insistence that a conflict spanning centuries, religions and continents is all about their pet cause, is how the left has responded to every conflict since.

Their response to the Clash of Civilizations has been to include Islamists in the global rainbow coalition of minorities, gays and gender theorists, indigent third world farmers, transsexuals, artists and poets, sex workers and terrorists; without considering what the Islamists were ...

Well, Greenfield nailed it again... amazing.

[dfwgator]

No problem, as long as you have duct tape.