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To: Constitution 123

I was hoping that the Posse’ would complete their investigation and turn their evidence over to the Maricopa County Attorney for a Grand Jury investigation before the Election and certainly before Inauguration Day, but that didn’t happen. Now that he’s been sworn in again, the only legal action that can touch Obama is impeachment or resignation.

The reason Courts can dismiss lawsuits before discovery is because either side in a civil action can submit dispositive motions and if a judge finds those arguments to be probative, the lawsuit is dismissed in its pre-trial phase.
In a trial on the merits in Georgia, the judge ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is a natural born citizen. (Farrar, Swensson, Powell & Welden v Obama).
There have been seventy appeals of those lawsuits and zero reversals. There have been 23 Supreme Court petitions and applications, all denied.

In any event, you don’t try forgery in a civil suit. forgery is a crime and criminals are indicted by grand juries.


64 posted on 01/20/2013 12:38:47 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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"""The reason Courts can dismiss lawsuits before discovery is because either side in a civil action can submit dispositive motions and if a judge finds those arguments to be probative, the lawsuit is dismissed in its pre-trial phase.""""

Yes..... This is one way courts are ignoring the evidence and not hearing the issue on merits. If a court does not want to hear a case it is so easy for the judge to use confusing legal logic, like standing, and dismiss the action.

However, the opposite is also true. If a court wants to hear a case, it can deny motion to dismiss, continue the trial, make a ruling and then let the rest be sorted out on appeal. At least then, there would be a record.

""""In a trial on the merits in Georgia, the judge ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is a natural born citizen. (Farrar, Swensson, Powell & Welden v Obama)."""

I believe this was the case where....

First the court rules against a motion to dismiss.

Then, Obama ignored all subpoenas.

Then, Obama and his attorneys refused to participate in the proceedings. They even challenge the court by boldly stating they will not participate nor provide subpoenaed material.

The Georgia Secretary of State says such action on their part will be at the attorney’s and his client’s (Obama's) peril.

The judge offers plaintiffs a summery judgement.

Plaintifs attorneys wanting the evidence presented and an official record of the same refuse the summery judgment.

The hearing proceeds without Obama or his attorneys present. Substantial evidence and testimony is presented being only against Obama.

One week later, the Judge finds in favor of the defendant?

How is this possible? What evidence was presented in court to support the judges findings? How can Obama and his attorneys disrespect the court, ignore subpoenas, fail to present evidence,and yet prevail?..... The judge did not even find them in contempt!!!

Something is really fishy here. Don't you agree?

65 posted on 01/20/2013 5:40:21 PM PST by Constitution 123
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To: Nero Germanicus
In a trial on the merits in Georgia, the judge ruled that Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is a natural born citizen. (Farrar, Swensson, Powell & Welden v Obama).

That was an administrative court hearing and not a conventional trial. There was no legal evidence Obama was born in Hawaii. The judge said he just "considered" that he was born there and then he cited a state appeals court that didn't declare anyone to be a natural born citizen. IIUC, the ballot-challenge process can't technically be appealed which is why the state's other courts refused to take any action. that he was born there and then he cited a state appeals court that didn

69 posted on 01/20/2013 8:16:38 PM PST by edge919
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