Check Roberts for brown lips/nose tip when the conference is completed.
That will reveal the truth regardless of what is said.
.....Barack Obama, left, joined by his wife Michelle, takes the oath of office from Chief Justice John Roberts to become the 44th president of the United States”
Roberts was party to the secret “reswearing” of the oath. Obama has always been careful to avoid illegal acts. For example refusing Federal funds, which may have been the basis for wire fraud action.
He and Roberts act as knowing criminals