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To: LurkingSince'98
You can have your account seized any time the IRS believes you are evading paying taxes... you can have your accounts seized and liens placed on your property with due cause... they don’t need a judgement - seize now...sue later...

As a lawyer, I litigate against the IRS fairly often. There is no legal way the IRS can levy your property without at least giving you the opportunity to challenge it in court first.

First, they cannot collect taxes without an assessment. An assessment of income taxes can ordinarily come about only in three ways: (1) you file a tax return, show a tax due, but don't pay it; or (2) the IRS sends you a notice alleging that you underpaid your taxes, and you don't file in Tax Court within 90 days; or (3) you file in Tax Court and lose.

Even after an assessment, the IRS cannot file a lien or levy without telling you they are going to, and giving you the opportunity to request a Collection Due Process Hearing; if you request a CDPH and lose, you can challenge that in Tax Court as well.

So no one has a lien against them unless they either went to court and lost (twice), or ignored a whole batch of IRS notices.

33 posted on 12/18/2012 11:50:10 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; E. Pluribus Unum

Did my comment about Tax Court throw you off? I welcome someone who understands tax law to this thread. Sorry, E. Plur., not you.


36 posted on 12/18/2012 11:58:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I believe she has said she has ignored anything the IRS had to say.

She also publicly told them to f-off.

I’m sure if you took the time to look at her levy notice you would see a case file number.

It was obviously all they felt they needed, cause they did it.

Lurking’


38 posted on 12/18/2012 12:03:05 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Ann previously shut down her grain brokerage and other businesses. I believe (believe) she said she was not going to pay any taxes on them on Constitutional grounds.

On October 27, 2012 (Ann's 36th birthday), Ann posted:

"Today is my 36th birthday.

"Today is also the day that the IRS confiscated my bank account. I think that is positively poetic. Now you people know why I keep saying that this website won't be around much longer and YOU will have to rebuild after the collapse and war. This isn't a game. This is completely, totally real.

"I heard it said recently that saints are people who put their money where their mouth is. I hope that's right. I pray that's right.

"Here is this morning's online image from my Wells Fargo personal checking account. I anticipate the business accounts will be drained early next week, too. I further expect that any monies that I attempt to deposit into any of my bank accounts will be swept by the IRS. They claim my "bill" is into the six figures, so $20,000 to them is just the very, very beginning.

"They will also be coming after my car and my home.

"I'm glad I bought a year's worth of freeze-dried food. Looks like I'm going to be needing it. But today, for my birthday, today will be a DOUBLE bacon cheeseburger day. And a strawberry malted.

Source: October 27, 2012 posting on blog

42 posted on 12/18/2012 12:21:42 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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