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1 posted on 12/16/2012 2:11:37 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
1.)A Ruger MKI, II, or III .22 LR pistol

2.)A Ruger 10/22 .22 LR rifle

3.) a semi automatic 12 gauge shotgun with an improved cylinder choke or better yet, an adjustable choke of some kind. Pumping the action takes too long. Improved cylinder is more forgiving when you have to make "cut shells" because you can't find slugs in the apocalypse.

4.) an AR-15

5.) a Glock, probably a Glock 19 even though I prefer .45 acp.

6.) a quality scoped bolt action high power rifle, preferably a Remington 700 in 30/06. Get a chamber adapter for it so you can also shoot .308 out of it... in the apocalypse.

2 posted on 12/16/2012 2:32:52 AM PST by RC one (FU liberals)
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To: Kartographer

PING!


3 posted on 12/16/2012 2:48:30 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you can only own one shotgun, make it the Beretta Xtrema-2.


4 posted on 12/16/2012 2:54:35 AM PST by varmintman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

why not one of each gun for each member old enough to kill himself a b’ar?


5 posted on 12/16/2012 3:01:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1.) Remington 870 tactical, 12ga. 20 or 18.5” barrel, shoulder stock

2.) Savage scoped bolt rifle in .308

3.) Ruger 10/22 carbine

4.) Glock 19

5.) S@W 637 snub


6 posted on 12/16/2012 3:06:01 AM PST by MachIV
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Semi auto can promote wasteful fire, accurate inexpensive bolt actions are the order of the day.

Multiple firearms in same chambering is a good idea.

I buy more ammo than i shoot every month.

A brand new savage 12 gauge pump can be purchased at Walmart for $199.

9 posted on 12/16/2012 3:55:36 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, an AK or SKS can be added as a potential weapon to have around as 7.62X39 ammo and spare gun parts are available throughout the world.


12 posted on 12/16/2012 4:03:38 AM PST by TexasRedeye
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On my hunting forum in TX these type questions come up allot. While I don’t get involved in the discussions much I have given it plenty of thought. Now I’m sure many will disagree with my fist statement but here it goes.

The one thing you won’t find on my list will be a semi-auto anything or double action revolvers due to reliability concerns.

1. Good quality single action 22 with a minimum of a 6 inch barrel. (My choice would be a Ruger single six.)

2. Good quality single action convertable in 45 LC/45 ACP with a minimum of a 6 inch barrel. (My choice would be the Ruger Blackhawk convertable in the above calibers.)

3. Good quality O/U or SxS shotgun in 12 ga.

4. Good quality bolt action in 308. (This rifle must have a Mauser claw action type extractor. Let me add I’m no fan of the 308 but in this case that would be my choice.)

5. Heres where I throw a wrench into the works. My fifth choice would be a good recurve bow. First I’m very comfortable with a recurve been shooting them for over 50 years, second there may be time when you don’t want everybody and their dog knowing where your at.


13 posted on 12/16/2012 4:10:18 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thinking practically ...

(1) every family member is trained, has CCW permit, and carries.
(2) every family member employs the same caliber hand gun. for us that’s the .45 ACP
(3) every male family member carries a Sig P220, German-made
(4) wife (and daughter when she turns 21) = Glock 30 .45 ACP for smaller frame, although they can shoot the P220s just fine - “too big ...”

AR in .223

long guns in .22 LR

12 Gauge.

In principal I want the fewest number of calibers, and the most interchangeable parts, and most interchangeable firearms (don’t have to figure it out if you pick it up in the dark etc).

Familiarity and interchangeability are key.

the lists presented are good to describe what ought to be in the home armory, but to align to exnavy’s point — what will each member of your team have?


14 posted on 12/16/2012 4:28:19 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

thanks for the post...


15 posted on 12/16/2012 4:29:16 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have the Marlin, it’s sweet. For large bore I got a Saiga, which is basically a civvie AK100.


18 posted on 12/16/2012 4:42:57 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If I told/showed you what was inside this, I'd have to kill myself:


25 posted on 12/16/2012 6:02:00 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Don't whiz on the electric fence. Awwwww-yeah!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s for home protection then a shotgun is the only choice.
If you also need to put meat on the table then get a 22.
Anything more than that is a personal choice.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 6:25:59 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
1.) Remington 11-87 12 gauge

2.) Browning A-bolt .30-06 with BOSS

3.) M4gery .223/556

4.) Beretta 92FS 9mm

5.) Browning Buckmark .22

Keeping the list to five is difficult. I'd switch out the 9mm for a M1911 if the military had more .45 APC ammo than 9 mm. (Think picking ammo off the ground, same goes for the M4.) I might switch out the .30-06 with a M24gery in .300 Win Mag that I am going to build next year if Santa is nice to me, but it will be much heavier than the .03-06. Either is good for big game, but the .300 Win Mag can reach out and touch someone at 800+ meters. I'd really like a .22 rifle (have several) on the list for small game hunting, but the Buckmark would suffice, although it is illegal to hunt with a semi automatic pistol in PA. One of these days I will get around to putting a breach barrel on a Mossberg 500, that could potentially replace the 11-87, but I would lose all my choke tubes and versatility for hunting.

34 posted on 12/16/2012 7:32:52 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (It is impossible to have a good faith negotiations with terrorists or any Muslim.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My 5 choices:

12 gauge pump or auto
scoped .308 bolt action rifle.
AR-15 in 5.56 mm
scoped .22 semi-automatic rifle
Defenive semiautomatic pistol in a caliber beginning with a 4.

Coincidentally, I have one, or more, of each.

As much ammo for each as you can afford to buy and store.

Bad times are coming. It’s no longer a question of IF but WHEN. You will need to protect what’s yours.


35 posted on 12/16/2012 7:48:44 AM PST by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump to share with my sons


39 posted on 12/16/2012 8:35:46 AM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only argument I have with this guy’s picks is the shotgun. IMO The Mossberg 500 is a better choice than the Remington. The survivability test by the USMC showed that the 870 failed before the Mossberg 500. If anybody can stress out a piece of equipment its a US Marine.

Add to that a Windham AR 15 and a Springfield Armory XDM .40 or .45 ACP and you are good to go.


40 posted on 12/16/2012 8:41:16 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the things to keep in mind in using a shotgun for home defense is this: at the ranges you will face in a typical home defense scenario, the pattern spread is something to consider at various ranges. Good video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahiF5aT7MfE


41 posted on 12/16/2012 9:18:40 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rem 7600 .308 w/10 round mags.


58 posted on 12/16/2012 3:47:06 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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