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Modern Survival Blog ^ | 12/1/12 | Be informed

Posted on 12/09/2012 1:00:31 PM PST by Kartographer

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To: T-Bird45
I found some on the web, along with some chlorine type tablets for water purification, but I wanted something that would also allow me to make bleach for all the normal every day things I do with bleach.

The issue with Iodine/Homeland Security could be related to a Nuclear threat or reactor failure/nuclear event. However FEMA doesn't appear to think that nuclear incident prep ia a big issue for the public at large-but we know the government is already taken care of.

If FEMA is not concerned, that just means one thing to me - better check out your location and see if you need to be concerned. Kansas City for example has a huge amount of hardened sites. Depending where you are, you might want to add a Geiger Counter to your list.

Potassium iodine tablets are an immediate necessity to protect the thyroid. The thyroid will absorb the iodine from the tabs instead of iodine found in nature that might have been contaminated depending on the circumstances.

I bought a pack to add to my daughter’s auto kit, since she does travel to St. Louis and back daily. St. Louis has 1 site that is a likely spot for a nuclear event. She should be far enough away from that site to turn, duck, and cover with a good chance of survival by taking the tabs.

Anyone 25 miles out from the center of the event will likely survive if they just take cover, take the tabs, and stay under cover for 2 weeks. After the first week, you can come out to throw the poop bags in the garbage container next to your shelter, but just those few minutes is all.

Got to wait for 2 weeks before you stay out longer than that. They used to teach this stuff in schools, but the Government hasn’t updated the nuclear civil defense stuff since the 1980’s. It would be more useful than some of the things they waste time on these days.

41 posted on 12/09/2012 7:00:39 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the links.


42 posted on 12/09/2012 7:02:46 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Having used iodine for purifying water....one tablet for one canteen... I'll just take the swamp water and process it myself. I am the sergeant, this time around.

At least with quinine water, you can add gin and a sweetner and it tastes not quite like the south end of a northbound mule.

/johnny

43 posted on 12/09/2012 7:33:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: LucyT

Thanks


44 posted on 12/09/2012 7:44:38 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'll take your word for it. Bleach has always been our go to, but fortunately we haven't needed it often.

Have you seen anything from any of the FEMA or Government websites about NBC preparedness?

I was hoping to find a link to something useful from their site. All I've found so far is various survival sites that talk about old civil defense books from the 60s.

My daughter had asked me sometime ago if I would write a dairy of what life was like back then. I was hoping to refresh my memory on the things they taught us then, which would serve the dual purpose of useful info and maybe even find some updated info.

From looking at FEMA you would think that tornadoes, hurricanes, and floods are the only kind of disasters that could ever possibly in your wildest dreams happen.LOL.

I also found a link that claimed without proof that China and Russia were busily building underground shelters for their citizens. I guess it could be true.

If anything, I would think that the big wigs just fell behind building stuff for their own use, and now that Iran, N. Korea and the M. East are all going nuclear so to speak, they are feeling the need to make haste.LOL.

45 posted on 12/09/2012 8:00:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Many of those original government publications are available from GoogleBooks for free.

Including the cold war wood gasifier booklet.

/johnny

46 posted on 12/09/2012 8:06:05 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks, I hate to admit I am not familiar with Google Books. I’ll check it out.


47 posted on 12/09/2012 8:07:33 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mercat; txnativegop; Georgia Girl 2

OK, I glommed onto your posts about rabbits because I’d been considering rabbits as preferable to chickens to raise. That is, easier & a better investment of my efforts as I can just take or leave eggs.

Your thoughts as to why I might wish to change my mind, if you have the time? The benefit of others’ experience is a blessing.


48 posted on 12/09/2012 10:12:37 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

I have been doing some reading on this. It kinda depends on your zoning laws, food preferences, and lots of other stuff.

One thing though, I have eaten both chicken and rabbits. I prefer the taste of chicken. While it is good to have chickens for eggs, I was recently reading a book about backyard poultry raising.

By purchasing a few chicks in March or April, you can have chickens for slaughter in September. You don’t have to skin them, and they have gizmos to make plucking the feathers pretty easy. I would be more able to handle this than skinning the rabbit I think.

If you are also gardening, the chickens will clean up your garden for you and help control insects. Plus, you can make some decent money selling them locally for just a small investment of time during the 8 months, if you raise a few extra to sell. We have a big market for that here - not so much for rabbits.

Both rabbits and chickens provide good manure for the garden which can also be sold for a profit, if you have no use for it.

I like the idea of being able to process all the chickens and freeze them or can them, and be done with it during the cold winter months. With Rabbits people usually tend them year round, and they reproduce continually.

A book I am reading is Pastured Poultry Profits by Joel Salatin.


49 posted on 12/09/2012 10:58:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
"you know kinda like solar power for dummies?"

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50 posted on 12/10/2012 2:16:18 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

LOL. I guess they really do have those dummies books on every subject. Who knew????????


51 posted on 12/10/2012 4:56:41 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mercat

We have three rabbits but only for pets. My girls needed something they could do together that didn’t involve fighting. :0) Those rabbits are the sweetest things! They are very curious, love to crawl on us and are very playful. I had no idea!

The two boys have been fixed so we’re not in the breeding/eating business at the moment. We’re waiting for our house to sell so we can move our large crew to some acreage. Right now we’re just practicing and getting our kids used to gardening and caring for animals. I wish we were not in our current house anymore! Trying to be patient.

Our small compost bin has flourished with the rabbit poop. It’s amazing how much those three little rabbits can produce! I can’t imagine the size of the compost we’d need for a dozen+ rabbits, chickens and other farm animals. This is all new and amazing to me!


52 posted on 12/10/2012 8:15:44 AM PST by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: greeneyes

Thank you for your feedback. You’re right, I’d never heard of slaughtering all in the fall instead of maintaining a henhouse thru winter. Sure simplifies things, doesn’t it?

My best friend & I have watched shows on rabbit butchering, which is actually pretty easy. He’s put it into practice several times to halt predation in his garden. Tho wild rabbits hardly have enough meat to bother with, investment in meat rabbits would indeed mean overwintering the breeders.


53 posted on 12/10/2012 8:24:20 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne

Since you do not require eggs in your diet, you would prefer rabbits.

You can trade those eggs for whatever you might need at the time with someone else; or you might raise chickens for trade with others.

Just my thoughts on the matter. Have a nice day!


54 posted on 12/10/2012 9:00:16 AM PST by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: txnativegop

Hah! Yeah, that’s why I was leaning more towards rabbits. I’d also gotten leery of poultry diseases vs rabbit diseases, tho again I could be wrong on that.


55 posted on 12/10/2012 10:29:38 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: snippy_about_it

I would recommend Generac. Our installation guy said the cheapest Kohler was twice the price of the cheapest Generac. (and Generac owns 70% of the home installation market.....that is what we have for our standby system)


56 posted on 12/10/2012 4:53:27 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Titan Magroyne
Glad to be of help. I actually remember reading about a certain synergy between chickens and rabbits though I can't remember exactly what it was.

I think it had to do with the chickens cleaning up under the Rabbit cages- but there was more to it, I just can't remember it all.

You can actually grow a lot of the stuff that both of them eat and help keep the costs down. Some of the stuff like alfalfa will help improve your soil for the next round of garden planting of veggies to eat with your meat.LOL

The old fashioned farm had a lot synergy that way.

57 posted on 12/10/2012 8:22:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks, I’ll check them out.


58 posted on 12/11/2012 3:56:59 PM PST by snippy_about_it
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