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To: YHAOS
Science knows how to abort an unborn child. It takes Creationism, as practiced by the Judeo-Christian tradition, to teach us that killing unborn children is generally, if not categorically, wrong.

You seem to be trying to say that only Creationists know that abortion is wrong, and that science is responsible for people practicing abortion, to lead to the conclusion that science is evil, and only Creationists are able to discern good from evil.

280 posted on 12/04/2012 3:33:09 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
You seem to be trying to say . . .

Keep in mind that my main bone of contention in this controversy is the declaration that “Creationism is useless” (speaking of “pejoratives”). I refer you again to #248 (see also #131 . . . “Creationism meanwhile is a dead end that leads nowhere and to nothing - to no further knowledge or discovery - it is useless”).

You still have two explanations: 1) what “bad arguments” and, from earlier (#276) 2) what “pejoratives” (and I’ll add a previously unanswered query, “Have you a charge to lodge, Boyo?”). #191 is where you first came into the bar looking for a fight.

A distinguishing characteristic of “Evos”, as well as other Liberals, is their thirst to control the lives of their fellow beings. And, remarkably, this despite their professed dedication to Science. I think their devotion to Science is fueled by the belief that it can be used as the primary tool to control people. So far as I know, Ayn Rand (decidedly not a Christian) was the first to articulate this insight.

281 posted on 12/04/2012 5:06:38 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: tacticalogic; YHAOS; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; ...

Christianity is the only *religion* which places that kind of value on a human life.

Take God out of the equation, as scientists have done with science, and you have situational ethics and NO basis whatsoever, to make any determination of what is true and false, right and wrong, or good and evil.

Science only deals with a subset of reality, that of the physical, material world around us and it doesn’t do that great of a job at that, even though at the present, it’s the best we have for that purpose.

It’s a good tool which has enabled mankind to make some worthwhile technological advances, but does NOTHING in addressing basis human need and does NOTHING to giving true meaning to life. The things that give true meaning to life are outside the prevue of the scientific method.

Science combined with Christian thinking and morals has improved our lives considerably. Science without it has given us the killing fields of the 20th century atheistic regimes of Mao, Lenin, Stalin, etc.

Looks like creationism isn’t useless after all.


293 posted on 12/05/2012 1:49:43 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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