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Russia's Cossacks Start Patrolling Moscow Streets
ABC News ^ | Nov. 27. 2012 | Max Seddom

Posted on 11/27/2012 8:24:38 PM PST by cunning_fish

Renowned for their sword-fighting prowess and notorious for their anti-Semitism in czarist Russia, the Cossacks are taking on new foes: beggars, drunks and improperly parked cars.

With the approval of city authorities, eight Cossacks clad in traditional fur hats and uniforms patrolled a Moscow train station on Tuesday looking for signs of minor public disturbances.

The Kremlin is seeking to use the once-feared paramilitary squads in its new drive to promote conservative values and appeal to nationalists.

The southern Krasnodar province — which includes Sochi, the site of the 2014 Winter Olympics — launched Cossack patrols in September to crack down on Muslim migrants from the neighboring Caucasus. Now they've made it to the Russian capital.

Cossacks trace their history in Russia back to the 15th century. Serving in the czarist cavalry, they spearheaded imperial Russia's expansion in exchange for special privileges, including the right to govern their own villages. In the 2010 census, about 650,000 Russians declared themselves Cossacks.

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TOPICS: Government; History; Local News; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: conservatism; cossaks; immigration; russia
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To: Olog-hai

You said flying over Alaska. Penetrating the ADIZ is not our “airspace” in that manner. It is as far as ATC, SAR, etc, and we will send fighters out to see what you are.
But those incidents and interceptions are the norm up there.
These incidents are at least 200 miles from Alaska. On the north end, the ADIZ goes all the way to the 75th latitude line. Look at that if you think we were violated. Look at the immense area north of the Aleutians. ADIZ can get massively far from Alaska there. And again, that area is where we go look at you. Not the same as penetrating our border.

And hystrionics aside, you might spend some time reading about navigation in that part of the world. Lost planes and navigation errors is the norm. It’s better today, but the cold war was filled with terrifying stories of our guys making mistakes that took them into Russia over land.

One U2 pilot heading south realized his mistake when he started hearing Russian language on radio stations he could receive.


41 posted on 11/28/2012 12:20:38 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Olog-hai

+When Russia stops aid to Iran (and other Iranian toadies in the Middle East such as Syria), I might start to have a different opinion of them, never mind think of them as serious about Islamic terror anywhere but their own soil. That is direct collaboration with a US enemy.>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I think since about 1991 Russians were always on the right side in international affairs, while US picked a wrong side. Iran (might be) an exception. I still can’t get motives for their backing of Iranian nuke program but for some reason I think their support for Iran is more like a bear’s hug. It may look friendly but someone is about to end up choked. Like if you can’t fight something, take a lead over it and bring it to a bog to sink there.

+Seizure from a criminal (alleged; he wasn’t tried under US jurisprudence after all) is still no excuse for nationalization. And I don’t excuse nationalization in any country.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
AFAIK, Khodorkovski applied to EU court with his case. Despite EU anti-Russian pro-Soros bias they couldn’t find if he was innocent.


42 posted on 11/28/2012 12:22:14 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Olog-hai

(alleged; he wasn’t tried under US jurisprudence after all)

Why would he have been tried here? He was tried where he committed the fraud and tax evasion. Dude is a criminal. And talk about State ownership, thats this guy in spades.
He got to own a bank under Gorbachev. (hint)
He was able to use ownership of that back to seize state oil after the collapse. He’s a admitted Soros partner.

If that sounds Kosher to you, then cool.


43 posted on 11/28/2012 12:24:58 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cunning_fish

Entering ADIZ is nowhere near a violation of US airspace

Exactly.


44 posted on 11/28/2012 12:26:04 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cunning_fish

“Khodorkovski applied to EU court with his case”

Russian federation isn’t in the EU. Was this appeal to the EU Court of Human Rights just kind of a meaningless theater anyway? They have no jurisdiction unless it’s like that Spanish judge that is always claiming jurisdiction in Chile, etc.


45 posted on 11/28/2012 12:30:38 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

“Khodorkovski applied to EU court with his case”

Russian federation isn’t in the EU. Was this appeal to the EU Court of Human Rights just kind of a meaningless theater anyway? They have no jurisdiction unless it’s like that Spanish judge that is always claiming jurisdiction in Chile, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And yet, this court hasn’t fond if there were any serious violations in his case.


46 posted on 11/28/2012 12:42:38 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: DesertRhino

“Khodorkovski applied to EU court with his case”

Russian federation isn’t in the EU. Was this appeal to the EU Court of Human Rights just kind of a meaningless theater anyway? They have no jurisdiction unless it’s like that Spanish judge that is always claiming jurisdiction in Chile, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And yet, this court hasn’t fond if there were any serious violations in his case.


47 posted on 11/28/2012 12:44:00 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqEB2do1yx0


48 posted on 11/28/2012 4:32:17 AM PST by Mr. Dough (Who was the greater military man, General Tso or Col. Sanders?)
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To: DesertRhino

Admitted or coerced into saying it?

Russia is being led by a KGB man who once said that the fall of the USSR was the twentieth century’s greatest geopolitical catastrophe, and is currently setting up a new version of same called the Eurasian Union. Not a conservative by US standards or any, I think, and in power through elections more stolen than hours. Consider.


49 posted on 11/28/2012 5:18:43 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: cunning_fish

Probably just my ignorance here, but I thought that the Cossacks were from Kazakhstan, which used to be part of the USSR. Kazakhstan is full of moslems I believe.


50 posted on 11/28/2012 5:23:22 AM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: cunning_fish

The European Court of Human Rights is technically not the EU (part of the Council of Europe; Russia’s a member), although anything of the CoE uses the EU flag. What with the Molotov-Ribbentrop-like détente between the EU and Russia anyhow, dissidents from either side aren’t going to be heard; and the ECHR mostly concerns itself with leftist activism anyhow.


51 posted on 11/28/2012 5:27:06 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: gop4lyf

Cossacks and Kazakhs are mostly two different things (the former being the Tsar’s cavalry), although the former name probably originated with the latter, a Turkic people.


52 posted on 11/28/2012 5:32:28 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: cunning_fish

Probably just my ignorance here, but I thought that the Cossacks were from Kazakhstan, which used to be part of the USSR. Kazakhstan is full of moslems I believe.


53 posted on 11/28/2012 5:33:31 AM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: cunning_fish

Thank you, Mr. Obama.


54 posted on 11/28/2012 5:41:06 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Thanks. Sorry for double post. Phone browser wouldn’t reload.


55 posted on 11/28/2012 5:47:48 AM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: gop4lyf

Cossaks are 90% ethnic Ukrainian. Kazakhs=people who lives in Kazakhstan. Kazakhs are 99% Muslim and they are ethnically a mixture of Turks and Mongols.


56 posted on 11/28/2012 6:16:21 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: erie lakawanna

Not going to last. Way too much nationalization and way too much authoritarianism. The goal is to recreate the USSR after all, but not as a communist empire strictly.

Even Red China has lower tax rates than the US, but that’s not stopping their big bubbles from forming.


58 posted on 11/28/2012 4:41:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; DesertRhino

>>>>> Not going to last. Way too much nationalization and way too much authoritarianism. <<<<<

Ask people who has stocks in Russian energy companies. As for authoritarianism it is a huge inprovement in terms of liberties over any regime they had in centuries. And there is a room for further improvement. South Korea was autoritarian just a few decades ago. If it was liberal instead it could be absorbed by the Norks now.
Every lower middle class society has to be authoritarian to same extent. If they aren’t they are Mexico. Let Russians climb from $18,000 to at least $30,000 average annual income and they’ll be demanding for more freedom and small government. And they seems to be in right direction.

>>>>>>Even Red China has lower tax rates than the US, but that’s not stopping their big bubbles from forming.<<<<<<<

So may be they aren’t that Red now?

>>>>>>The goal is to recreate the USSR after all, but not as a communist empire strictly.<<<<<<<<<<<

Evidence? Is the problem in their dislike to NATO enlargement or what?


59 posted on 11/28/2012 7:38:44 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks cunning_fish.

http://www.google.com/search?q=cossacks


60 posted on 11/28/2012 7:41:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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