Posted on 11/26/2012 4:18:45 PM PST by Rufus2007
Filling in on Rush Limbaughs Monday radio show, National Review columnist Mark Steyn said that Republicans lost big on Election Day because less engaged and more uniformed voters turned out in force.
We do very well in off years, in the midterms 1994, 2002, Steyn said. Republicans can have good years then because essentially theyre low-turnout elections people who are engaged in politics vote. In the presidential years, people voted a broader pool of voters comes in, and theyre basically people who swim in the broader culture. Theyre not people who know the name of their congressmen or governor, and [they] arent terribly interested.
Steyn, author After America: Get Ready for Armageddon, added that the GOP has had persistent problems getting motivated voters to the polls.
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Great post.
America is all about media 24/7/365 and that media is overwhelmingly liberal.
You are largely correct, although I think Steyn’s argument was a lack of big ideas...not specifics. He is saying he ran on a narrow idea that he could better steer the economy. He made no larger argument about the size of government, the massive growth of DC vs the rest of the country or liberty vs. government dictate.
At the same time, you have a solid point. Romney was hammered for not having specifics, but the guy in office never made any presentation of a plan for what four more years brings. We know he’d pay for 5 extra days of government a year with tax increases, but never mentioned how he was going to pay for the other 360.25 days of the year for his big government controls. A vague ‘Forward’ was all the voters needed to hear, apparently. It is frustrating to no end...we have to learn how to manipulate the media bias and every time a person goes on these shows use the time to hit on our points. We play defensive and explain our side. The other side just hammers us. With the press bias, they win because they never get any scrutiny that is seen by the average voter.
Real intelligent response there, C. Edmund.
The bottom line is that the GOP can’t get it done even when the opposition essentially hands them the election.
As I stated, I don’t know if a third party will end up becoming a force to be rekoned with (although I think this time it will happen), but we know the future is not in the Republican Party.
Not the way I would have wanted it, but that’s the way it is.
Go ahead, pick one of the 70 some off parties now.....
The problem is, you don’t get it. The problem is not any party, the problem is human nature. And which ever of your brilliant third parties emerges, they will have that same problem. You know why? Because they’ll be run by humans, and those humans will be subject to human nature. Duh.
Very, very, very well-said. I wish you would run for....something.
we been rolled.....
Does anybody here doubt for a New York minute...that had Mitt Romney won the election with hundreds of precincts 100+ voting for him it would NOT be in the MSM 24/7 and in front of a judge somewhere from now until 2016?
the Pubbies are no where to be found...just crickets...
IMHO...they took the campaign donations and ran....to sit down with the rest of DC and raise our taxes...and continue to authorize stupid, corrupt spending....and continue to prosecute the war on Flyover Country by DC.
It’s only because he was a small shriveled candidate.
I'm afraid so. If he had tried to argue a strong conservative case, he would have been seen as a liar, since his record as governor was in no way conservative.
Pro life? How could he argue that when he pushed through taxpayer funded abortion as "healthcare" in Massachusetts?
Pro family? How could he argue that, when he was a pioneer of gay marriage?
Anti-government healthcare? How could he argue that, when Romneycare gave Obama his chief model to work from?
How can a man with no apparent principles argue from principle? It just won't work.
He came across as a small, shriveled candidate because, regretably, that's what he was. Not his looks, which are fine. But the complete absence of any basic principles. He was not in a position to say very much, or to attack Obama on stuff like his votes to throw born-alive babies out on the roof to die, because it would have rebounded back on him if he tried.
Well, one of the reasons that we have no answer to it is because in general the anti-Left is either oblivious to, ignorant of, or hostile and dismissive of culture. Kind of like my attitude toward, say, ice hockey - except that if knowing about and promulgating ice hockey was the way to win the war, I would get a pair of skates, get season tickets and get with the program. How many members of FR read the only non-Leftist cultural publication, The New Criterion? Anybody? How many stay informed by reading TLS - does anyone know what it is? How many are members of a museum? How many go to the ballet or opera even once a year? How many ever go to a jazz concert? How many go to thr theater? These are all components in the cultural landscape, and are something that can’t be bought with money. Any more than a winning sports team van be created with money and nothing else.
One has to participate, one has to be engaged. The anti-Left has been largely absent from the cultural discourse in America for almost a hundred years. So of course we have no answer to Spielberg et al. You can’t fight on the epic level of War and Peace if you’re armed with the Reader’s Digest.
Well, one of the reasons that we have no answer to it is because in general the anti-Left is either oblivious to, ignorant of, or hostile and dismissive of culture. Kind of like my attitude toward, say, ice hockey - except that if knowing about and promulgating ice hockey was the way to win the war, I would get a pair of skates, get season tickets and get with the program. How many members of FR read the only non-Leftist cultural publication, The New Criterion? Anybody? How many stay informed by reading TLS - does anyone know what it is? How many are members of a museum? How many go to the ballet or opera even once a year? How many ever go to a jazz concert? How many go to thr theater? These are all components in the cultural landscape, and are something that can’t be bought with money. Any more than a winning sports team van be created with money and nothing else.
One has to participate, one has to be engaged. The anti-Left has been largely absent from the cultural discourse in America for almost a hundred years. So of course we have no answer to Spielberg et al. You can’t fight on the epic level of War and Peace if you’re armed with the Reader’s Digest.
No it’s much more than just Romney.
The GOP has taken the side of China.
Against American workers.
This is a terrible mistake. Buy American.
Just saying.
The Republicans have shown themselves to be worthless all on their own. They cannot win the equivalent of a 3-inch put against a guy who clearly hates America, her Consitution, the Bill of Rights, private property, and the free enterprise system.
We needed another Reagan, and Rove gives us George H. ‘kinder, gentler’ Bush; we need an answer to Clinton, and we get George ‘slam is a religion of peace’ Bush; nobody knows jack about this community organizer obama, and we get John ‘keating five’ McCain who still loses; obama drives us right into the abyss, and the party bosses ram Romney down our throat as ‘the only one who can win’. You know the end of that story.
Sorry, but we've given the GOP more than enough time to do the right thing. The Republicans are not equipped to do the heavy lifting necessary to lead us to true recovery (culturally and economically). Even now, after all this, their answer is to become more like the Democrats.
Guarantee that would have made more impact than "I've got twelve million jobs up my sleeve."
Michael Moore was right. If all the people who text in votes to American Idol show up to vote, the Libs can never lose.
“On jobs...”
The real problem at hand is that office of the president has anything at all to do with employment in yours and my town. Not which fool would like to occupy the office.
I actually did hear him say that he would approve the Keystone pipeline the day he was inaugurated. He also mentioned the jobs it would bring. Its just that his message was snuffed out by the negatives.
you don’t get it. You don’t get it at all. I’m not defending the GOP at all. I have no argument with the problems you state within the GOP. That’s all true.
Those problems do exist. But those are human mistakes. And you won’t find a third party full of robots. You just don’t have a clue as to what I’m talking about. It’s a people problem, not a party problem.
You just don’t understand.
Don’t forget: we need someone who wants Americans to work.
THIS is the critical point which the GOP has lost sight of, and too many others on our side.
Americans want to work. Give them jobs, not welfare.
I told everybody that would listen that Romney would lose because he allowed Dinglebarry to school yard bully him and he would not fight back. Mitt was the best man for the job but folks want a fighter and the Muslim Prez is a dirty lying Chicago machine politican that shucks and jives his way through life with affirmative action and set asides.
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