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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
That ignores the question of how can anyone create a pure new party large enough to win an election?

First, you must accept that the GOP is done for and deserves a decent burial.

Second, you must accept that a new broad conservative party WILL NOT WIN AN ELECTION - until the crisis, not yet upon us, breaks with full force.

In my eyes, the new party must be the vehicle for real, sustained change - by that, I mean many things that the People are not yet ready to accept.

If your premise is that a new party must win elections immediately, by sustaining the rotten old system and conceding large points to the communists in order to win the favor of the idiots who make up the current electorate, why bother?

The Democrats have won the battle of ideas in the hearts of the People. They now will rule until the end of their system - which will not be brought about by elections, but by the crisis which their policies will bring to fruition.

In the depths of dispair, to whom do you imagine the People will turn? Karl Rove? Jeb Bush? Haley Barbour? John Sununu?

We must conserve the seed corn and be ready for the turn of the wheel - and the wheel is alredy in motion.

The GOP is just sand in the gears at this point - the sooner it dies, the sooner we can begin.

16 posted on 11/23/2012 8:38:02 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Jim Noble
So you're willing to continue to lose elections, hoping for the right time for the perfect party to come in and create perfection here on earth?

I could say to count me out but at this point, I do not expect to ever see another honest presidential election in my lifetime. Between the 47 percenters who are very happy with the current arrangment, those who commit fraud and those who are willing to ignore it and those who believe they are too moral to vote for someone they consider too flawed, we are doomed. I have no illusions of any of this ever mattering again.

We could have lived to fight another day but our side is too fractured to even try.

25 posted on 11/23/2012 8:56:24 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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