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1 posted on 11/21/2012 10:10:42 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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yeah and the IRS is the enforcer. They will just take whatever money they want. Fighting them is futile.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 10:13:01 AM PST by I want the USA back
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The John Roberts SCOTUS will be the ultimate arbiter on what the law means. So I’m not getting my hopes up.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 10:15:38 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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The problem is Obamacare will put private insurers out of business by pure impossible regulations that your company will not want to pay, so you’ll end up in Obamacare anyway.


5 posted on 11/21/2012 10:19:28 AM PST by paltz
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Yes, Ms. Brase, well, by statute, Medicare is a “voluntary” program, too. Know any 65+ year-olds who aren’t in it??


7 posted on 11/21/2012 10:23:38 AM PST by browniexyz
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The cited paragraph from the law simply states that as long as your company provides insurance you will not be required to participate in the new Federally mandated insurance exchanges.

However, what the writer misses is that the insurance provided by your company will now be under Federal control. Federal regulators can force policies to include stuff which will price them out of existence. This was the plan by the left from the beginning.

Once they have the insurance companies out of the roll of providing private coverage, then the second part of the pincer movement will begin. The Feds will be the only provider and they will reduce payments to private doctors and institutions, just like they squeeze doctors with Medicare today.

One of the elephants in the room is that Medicare has devolved into a giant transfer payment. The Feds refuse to pay providers at a good rate and the providers shift the costs to everyone else OR the providers refuse to provide services for Medicare patients at the artificially low rates.

Once everyone is forced into the Federal exchanges the providers will have no options. Thus, a lot of doctors are taking early retirement.


8 posted on 11/21/2012 10:30:43 AM PST by the_Watchman
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12 posted on 11/21/2012 11:15:05 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information.)
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Paying your income taxes is “voluntary” also.


13 posted on 11/21/2012 11:32:08 AM PST by kaehurowing
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The government follows no law. They are lawless. You can’t win in court.


14 posted on 11/21/2012 12:13:38 PM PST by Revel
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Most regulations are voluntary. On paper.

Just try ignoring them, and you'll see how “voluntary” they are in reality.

That said, I'm all in favor of strangling bureaucrats in their own red tape. That many pages, there's bound to be thousands of ways to clog the system.

15 posted on 11/21/2012 12:14:07 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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