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To: MarDav
Thank you very much for re-posting my comments for others to see and read.

The truth of these statements are self-evident to those with a discerning mind and heart.

Fact: Fundamentally, government schools are a godless, socialist, single payer, and compulsory entitlement.

Fact: The children who attend these godless government schools must think and reason godlessly just to cooperate in the godless classroom, godless curriculum, godless school policies, and godless home assignments. How can it be otherwise?

Fact: The children who attend these socialist-funded schools risk learning to be comfortable with socialism. If the voting mob can give them tuition-free school, why not use the voting mob to get **lots** of “free” stuff. Again, how could it be otherwise?

Fact: Teaching children to think and reason godlessly is utterly incompatible with Christian principles and belief. When Christian teachers willingly seek jobs in government schools they willingly agree to support, uphold, and establish the overall agenda of the godless school which is godlessness. How could it be otherwise?

Fact: Putting children at risk of learning to be social parasites and learning to be comfortable with socialism is in complete contradiction to conservative belief. Yet....So-called “conservative” teachers agree to do that if they are to keep their jobs. How could it possibly be otherwise?

My opinion: Christian and conservative teachers risk being an poor example to naive parents. If sweet Mrs. Honey Bun, the minister's wife, teaches in the godless and socialist entitlement schools, then parents may wrongly conclude that their local godless indoctrination camp can't be that bad. ( It is **that**bad!)

My opinion: Christians and conservative teachers who attempt to sneak in Christian and conservative principles into their classrooms are doing two things:

1) They are teaching children that conservatives and Christians are sneaky.

2) They are imposing their religious and political worldview on captive children who are literally government prisoners whose parents may be in complete disagreement with the conservative or Christian teacher. Last I read, Jesus never **forced** his Gospel on state captives.

Solution: Begin the process of rescuing our nation's children from these abominable cesspools of socialism and godlessness.

1) Conservatives please remove your children. Starve the beast.
2) Conservative and Christian teachers use you talent to open private schools.
3) Work toward complete separation of school and state.

94 posted on 11/25/2012 3:26:58 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

“Fact: The children who attend these godless government schools must think and reason godlessly just to cooperate in the godless classroom, godless curriculum, godless school policies, and godless home assignments. How can it be otherwise?”

Not Fact but Fiction: Children do not have to think and reason godlessly. It can be that with Godly teachers in the classroom, Godly thinking and reasoning can be encouraged and supported. Therefore it CAN be otherwise.

Fact: The children who attend these socialist-funded schools risk learning to be comfortable with socialism.

Not Fact but Fiction: Given the right kind of teacher (a Christian teacher, for example...but even a non-believing conservative teacher), children can learn of the inherent risks of socialism and its failure wherever it has been practiced. Therefore it CAN be otherwise.

“Fact: ...When Christian teachers willingly seek jobs in government schools they willingly agree to support, uphold, and establish the overall agenda of the godless school which is godlessness. How could it be otherwise?”

Not Fact but Fiction: When Christian teachers willingly seek jobs in government schools they can (and do) willingly agree to teach kids to think for themselves. In so doing, they may actually be empowering students to question the very nature of public education to consider for themselves the extent of its effectiveness (or lack thereof). Therefore, it CAN be otherwise.

“Fact: Putting children at risk of learning to be social parasites and learning to be comfortable with socialism is in complete contradiction to conservative belief. Yet....So-called “conservative” teachers agree to do that if they are to keep their jobs. How could it possibly be otherwise?”

Not Fact but Fiction: Conservative teachers/Christian teachers do not agree to put children at risk by teaching them to learn how to be comfortable with socialism. Conservative teachers/Christian teachers teach students to think for themselves and will ensure that the teaching of conservative values and America’s religious traditions are adequately presented in the classroom. These teachers trust that their effective teaching alone will result in student learning which, they trust, will promote job security. Therefore, it CAN be otherwise.

“My opinion: Christian and conservative teachers risk being an poor example to naive parents.”

Fact: Your opinion is naive, not supported by any evidence and derogatory to Christian and conservative teachers with whom you apparently have little or no direct contact. It is equally condescending to parents with whom you apparently disagree.

“My opinion: Christians and conservative teachers who attempt to sneak in Christian and conservative principles into their classrooms are doing two things:

1) They are teaching children that conservatives and Christians are sneaky.

2) They are imposing their religious and political worldview on captive children who are literally government prisoners whose parents may be in complete disagreement with the conservative or Christian teacher. Last I read, Jesus never **forced** his Gospel on state captives.”

Fact: Your opinion of Christian teachers (calling them “sneaks”) is unfounded. The teaching of America’s Christian heritage, while not often taught by non-Christians, is well within America’s curricula. No one has to do any sneaking. Additionally, conducting oneself as a Christian in the classroom is perfectly legal (for instance, our school begins each day with a moment of silence—I bow my head as we do so). The teaching of America’s religious heritage, the religious inclinations found in, say, The Scarlet Letter or Hamlet (two works I am currently teaching) is not imposing religion on captives. It is teaching two great works of literature. If you are familiar with these works, you would say, “How could it be otherwise!”


95 posted on 11/25/2012 7:41:17 PM PST by MarDav
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