Machiavellian Rove 'Kept Santorum Alive Until He Could Kill Rick Perry First... THEN Newt Gingrich'

Reaganite Republican ^ | 15 November 2012 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

GO AWAY already

It's over dude...

As you've most likely already heard, the TEA Party right has declared all-out war on Karl 'Boss Hogg' Rove in the wake of numerous recent (expen$ive) GOP disasters in which
'The Architect' played an inglorious starring role. The final straw was likely his lack of willingness to take responsibility for an almost complete lack of success in the 2012 election cycle, instead pointing fingers and making excuses like an Italian cruise ship captain.

Rove's flat-out whiffing in almost every race he backed -on top of improbable Romney defeat- would be enough for any sensible organization to seek-out somebody with a different strategy/skill-set... yet now Rove has provided still more reason to turn on him by attempting to blame the right for Mitten's lack of results while pushing an ill-conceived and unhelpful amnesty agenda as a shiny fool's gold cure-all for the party's current electoral woes.

As someone who initially backed Bachmann and later Newt Gingrich, I sure haven't forgotten the way Rove utilized near-limitless resources to destroy conservative candidates and ram Romney down our gullet. I really felt like I'd been totally screwed-over... not a very pleasant feeling.

Now we read that Santorum -who I'm no fan of- served effectively as a post-Iowa useful idiot that Rove utilized to damage all other conservatives, as he diluted and split the party's right by surrepticiously funding Santorum's dead-end campaign long past it's natural life. Not a huge surprise I guess, we all knew the fix was in... apparent from very early-on.

Thanks Ricky- do you even know you were played yet?

I ASK YOU who needs a duplicitous RINO scumbag like Karl Frickin' Rove manipulating our party- this gaming-the-primaries stuff is completely anti-democratic, denying the people's will (only 30% of Republicans supported Romney in the primaries- that's what you call 'collective wisdom'). 

Small wonder then that Rove got his blobular butt kicked all up-and-down the field on Election Day, and now the whole party is paying a heavy-duty price for it, not to mention the country (highlights Ed.)-

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Business Insider:

Karl Rove was out raising money to keep Santorum alive until they could kill Newt 

Santorum basically ran for Governor of Iowa in 2011, visiting all 99 counties; 

Santorum, out of Iowa, had no organization, no money and no chance in 2012 to be the Republican nominee; he was only a stalking horse for Mitt Romney 

Rove kept Santorum alive until he could kill Rick Perry first, and then Newt Gingrich. It's instructive to note that Santorum placed 3rd in the South Carolina Presidential Primary the third week of January, and placed 3rd again the next week in Florida — yet Rove [by encouraging GOP donors to donate Santorum] was able to parlay two third place finishes into a $1M shot of money to keep Santorum alive...this is political gamesmanship on a whole other level, plus access to unlimited money. 

That Fox News and the The Wall Street Journal worked out a hefty financial contract with Karl Rove is of no concern to me, Karl has every right to be paid well and -like me- participate in the political process. 

But giving Karl Rove the perch as a neutral analyst and an unbiased observer -honest broker- when in reality Karl is driven by his desire to enhance his clients and/or personal interests -corrupts the process. 

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But guess what? WE WILL WIN this war with Karl Rove and other ossified GOP failures over the next few months...
and we're going to have one helluva lot of fun doing it. 

Yes, the imminent death of the Karl Rove's diabolical RNC cabal will mean a true Reaganite renaissance in this country: you know... the long-overdue one who's time had unfortunately not yet quite come last week- but it is coming my friends, and soon.

How soon? It's already here for Rove- he wasted millions on crap results from coast-to-coast, and nobody's going to hire him for this sort of thing again- he can just sit there and bloviate on Hannity every night, 'blah blah blah CHART blah blah blah $$$ blah blah blah 'confident' blah blah blah blah blah' -yawn-

It's here for Obama's former crony-capitalist buddies on Wall Street, too- financial markets are tanking because most investors were sure that Romney was going to win, and since this was already priced-in to securities, now-disappointed traders are dumping in dismay... tell me they're not up for a Reaganomics-driven recovery right about now.

Yes, it's almost here for all of us: all we got to do is roll
Rollee-Pollee Rove to the curb and usher in a NEW generation of GOP leaders... the so-called 'Children of Reagan': the Rubios, Ryans, Gowdys, the Bachmanns... Ted Cruz... Mike Pence. THESE are people who get it- and because of that, they now stand ready to inherit the leadership mantle of the TEA Party
-which is to be indiscernible from the 'new' GOP- in our ongoing quest to salvage this great nation:

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Forbes:

Rubio already has earned rock star quality, both for his personal charisma and the charisma of his ideas. 

Rubio is a leader in presenting prosperity-with-social-equity, fostering Reaganesque economic policies: 

'We don’t need new taxes. We need new taxpayers, people that are gainfully employed, making money and paying into the tax system. 

And then we need a government that has the discipline to take that additional revenue and use it to pay down the debt and never grow it again. And that’s what we should be focused on, and that’s what we’re not focused on.'

Rubio leads the pack among GOP Insiders in the most recent National Journal Political Insiders’ Poll. He’s built a major league team and is first tier..

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First step? Replace John Boehner with -say- Paul Ryan...

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iowntheworld   Forbes   ArkansasGOPWing   RSN   Business Insider

[JediJones]

Overall, ran a fairly decent campaign, could have been stronger, coasted too much toward the end.

He coasted up until the 90 minutes during the first debate and immediately began coasting afterwards for the remainder of the campaign. Did he even do any national media interviews during that last month with conservative or mainstream media outlets? The next candidate might want to try and get their face out there on some free airtime if they're trying to get elected president.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Even with the clear advantage of a successful lifelong economic background on his side... Mittens could not, after six straight years of campaigning, close the sale versus Obama.

Even with the clear advantage of multiple Obama administration foreign policy scandals, such as "Fast and Furious," on his side... Mittens could not, after six straight years of campaigning, close the sale versus Obama.

Even with the clear advantage of innumerable Obama administration corruption scandals on his side... Mittens could not, after six straight years of campaigning, close the sale versus Obama.

Even with a U.S. ambassador brutally butchered scant weeks before the election... Mittens could not, after six straight years of campaigning, close the sale versus Obama.

Mittens could not carry Massachusetts, or Michigan. Ryan could not help him carry Wisconsin.

Romney won, he was the best candidate

System Error. Retry.

[COBOL2Java]

This points to my biggest revulsion towards Rove... his going on FoxNews and pretending to be an ‘unbiased’ political analyst while taking massive amounts of money and utilizing his platform to deliberately prop-up or deep-six candidates, according to who fills his wallet.

Yep. Rove is the political equivalent of an arms dealer.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Those here enraptured by the sanctimonious establishment hack Santorum would hear nothing of it. They didn't care about his voting record, his GOPe ties, he had a nice family and was talking their values and they followed him like the Pied Piper. They would travel thread-to-thread in attack mode.

Amen bros, right on the money. The big difference between the Newt supporters and the Santorum supporters - is that the Newt supporters came back to him slowly fully aware of his flaws and his history. As such, there was never a cultish slavish lack of understanding of who we were dealing with. We saw him as the battered warrior, wiser for the successes and failures he had been a part of, like a Churchill - very flawed - but right for the times we are in.

The Santorum sweater vest cultists, on the other hand, saw Rick "take the slings and arrows" and his family out of church picnic central casting, and simply would not hear of his pro union, pro enviro, pro big government history. His over all record was pretty good, but some of his bad votes were on just awful issues. The way the ACU keeps score really is misleading in that regard.

The other thing they wouldn't hear is that in 15 years, when RS is as old as NEwt is now, he will probably have stepped into more doo doo than Newt ever did. That is, if anyone even cares what RS says. Newt's problem is that because he is who he is, every thing he ever says gets recorded.

[GlockThe Vote]

BINGO

[Brookhaven]

A loss is a loss. Little or big, it doesn’t matter.

The strategy you are advocating is that we need to stick with people like Romney, who have low negatives and can appeal to swing voters.

That’s a losing strategy. It didn’t work for Romney, McCain or Bob Dole. Since that strategy doesn’t work, let’s stop doing it.

Nobody knows if Gingrich would have lost—it’s all just speculation at this point. What we do know as a fact, is that Romney lost; that when the GOP runs moderate candidates with low negatives they lose—every...single...time.

[JediJones]

One single issue killed the GOP’s chances in the senate and WH. The issue was no exceptions on abortion.

So you're saying Scott Brown should've changed his position to pro-choice...oh, wait.

Is that why Romney did better with women than McCain by 2 percentage points?

If 8 million former Obama voters were so gung-ho on abortion, why did they apparently stay home instead of coming out to vote for Obama?

And if you assume that those 8 million actually did switch to Romney, but it was 10 million former McCain voters who stayed home, then we can be sure they didn't stay home because Romney was too pro-life.

Akin's and Mourdock's comments making the media circus had nothing to do with their positions on abortion. It had to do with Akin's theory on a woman's body "shutting down" in rape and Mourdock's comments making it sound like he thought the rape itself was a "gift from God."

[JCBreckenridge]

Given that I’m now paying for everyone’s contraception, you’d better believe I’ll continue speaking out against the ills of it.

[Will88]

The Bushes were the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican Party,

Yes, and they are hard at work with plans to move Jeb and George P. in to continue what GHWB and W started.

[JCBreckenridge]

“tiny caucus of weirdo voters”

11 states are a ‘tiny caucus’ of ‘weirdo voters’?

Gosh. I think people cottoned onto the fact that Santorum was an enthusiastic conservative.

As for Newt - you remember his first speech back in 1994 when he became House Majority Leader?

Where he said that the Democrats had it right on race?

Remember that? I sure do.

[Hegewisch Dupa]

“George P.”??? Of for the love of...there’s another one????? Tis is like a slasher movie where the monster never really goes away, no matter how many times you ‘get rid of’ him. Aye karumba.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Tiny caucus of weirdo voters - was Iowa. To count states the way you do is beyond stupid, and I dont’ do stupid, let alone beyond stupid.
Bye.

[Will88]

Surely you heard the recent news about George P., one of Jeb’s sons:

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2014-statewide-elections/george-p-bush-files-paperwork-ethics-commission/

[Hegewisch Dupa]

I’m sad to say that I had not heard of that news. Now I’m even sadder to say I have. “Politics are in my blood” - that’s the whole damn problem!

[Hegewisch Dupa]

" the TEA Party right has declared all-out war on Karl 'Boss Hogg' Rove"

Sweetest sentence I've read in a coon's age (Yeah, I know it was but part of a sentence - you get what I mean...)

[McGruff]

Romney gave us the best chance to win...

How so by being Obama Lite? We conservatives have held our nose twice and voted for a RINO who lost to a lightweight. There ain't gonna be a third time for me.

[Lakeshark]

No one was going to win this thing, not one of the candidates we liked would have done better.

Romney made his share of mistakes, but consider the following:

1. The media.
2. The new demographics of the 47%
3. The corruption already in place from the stimulus to the unions and the Acorn types.

The media reported perfectly good things Romney said as gaffes, and reported the dems as near perfect. They constantly repeated the lie that the economy was getting better, it was Bush's fault anyway, and that even so no one could have done anything. They never. once. reported. Benghazi. Not ever. They never reported on Fast and Furious. Not once. They never reported on the crony capitalism Chicago thug way. Not Once.

The new demographics: How do you win when virtually half the country are now takers? Who do they vote for, Santa Clause, or the guy who wants you to be an entrepreneur and work hard to get the American dream?

The stimulus slush fund paid for all those voters to come out. Free stuff uber alles.

you add to that the stupid purist jack asses who wouldn't vote to take out Bambi, and voila! Loss.

I'm sorry, there is no way anyone in the field, not Newt, not Palin, not Perry, nor Bachmann, not Santorum even gets close considering how the deck was stacked. How in the world would any of them gotten close? Splain please, and it will be easy to show how that same machine would have simply destroyed them, each one.

[Charles Henrickson]

Romney gave us the best chance to to win because none of the others—Santorum, Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, et al.—none of them would have come as close as Romney did. The only one who could have done better than Romney was . . . Romney. Which he could have. A little bit. Maybe enough to win. Maybe not.

[JCBreckenridge]

Oh really?

Maybe you’d prefer it like this:

Iowa
Colorado
Missouri
Minnesota
North Dakota
Louisiana
Kansas
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Alabama
Mississippi

Or like this:

Santorum 3,816,110
Gingrich 2,689,771

Or maybe like this:

Santorum 255 Delegates
Gingrich 147 Delegates.

[JCBreckenridge]

Fool me once... :)