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Machiavellian Rove 'Kept Santorum Alive Until He Could Kill Rick Perry First... THEN Newt Gingrich'
Reaganite Republican ^
| 15 November 2012
| Reaganite Republican
Posted on 11/15/2012 6:34:51 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
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It's over dude... |
As you've most likely already heard, the TEA Party right has declared all-out war on Karl 'Boss Hogg' Rove in the wake of numerous recent (expen$ive) GOP disasters in which
'The Architect' played an inglorious starring role. The final straw was likely his lack of willingness to take responsibility for an almost complete lack of success in the 2012 election cycle, instead pointing fingers and making excuses like an Italian cruise ship captain.
Rove's flat-out whiffing in almost every race he backed -on top of improbable Romney defeat- would be enough for any sensible organization to seek-out somebody with a different strategy/skill-set... yet now Rove has provided still more reason to turn on him by attempting to blame the right for Mitten's lack of results while pushing an ill-conceived and unhelpful amnesty agenda as a shiny fool's gold cure-all for the party's current electoral woes.
As someone who initially backed Bachmann and later Newt Gingrich, I sure haven't forgotten the way Rove utilized near-limitless resources to destroy conservative candidates and ram Romney down our gullet. I really felt like I'd been totally screwed-over... not a very pleasant feeling.
Now we read that Santorum -who I'm no fan of- served effectively as a post-Iowa useful idiot that Rove utilized to damage all other conservatives, as he diluted and split the party's right by surrepticiously funding Santorum's dead-end campaign long past it's natural life. Not a huge surprise I guess, we all knew the fix was in... apparent from very early-on.
Thanks Ricky- do you even know you were played yet?
I ASK YOU who needs a duplicitous RINO scumbag like Karl Frickin' Rove manipulating our party- this gaming-the-primaries stuff is completely anti-democratic, denying the people's will (only 30% of Republicans supported Romney in the primaries- that's what you call 'collective wisdom').
Small wonder then that Rove got his blobular butt kicked all up-and-down the field on Election Day, and now the whole party is paying a heavy-duty price for it, not to mention the country (highlights Ed.)-
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Business Insider:
Karl Rove was out raising money to keep Santorum alive until they could kill Newt
Santorum basically ran for Governor of Iowa in 2011, visiting all 99 counties;
Santorum, out of Iowa, had no organization, no money and no chance in 2012 to be the Republican nominee; he was only a stalking horse for Mitt Romney
Rove kept Santorum alive until he could kill Rick Perry first, and then Newt Gingrich. It's instructive to note that Santorum placed 3rd in the South Carolina Presidential Primary the third week of January, and placed 3rd again the next week in Florida yet Rove [by encouraging GOP donors to donate Santorum] was able to parlay two third place finishes into a $1M shot of money to keep Santorum alive...this is political gamesmanship on a whole other level, plus access to unlimited money.
That Fox News and the The Wall Street Journal worked out a hefty financial contract with Karl Rove is of no concern to me, Karl has every right to be paid well and -like me- participate in the political process.
But giving Karl Rove the perch as a neutral analyst and an unbiased observer -honest broker- when in reality Karl is driven by his desire to enhance his clients and/or personal interests -corrupts the process.
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But guess what? WE WILL WIN this war with Karl Rove and other ossified GOP failures over the next few months...
and we're going to have one helluva lot of fun doing it.
Yes, the imminent death of the Karl Rove's diabolical RNC cabal will mean a true Reaganite renaissance in this country: you know... the long-overdue one who's time had unfortunately not yet quite come last week- but it is coming my friends, and soon.
How soon? It's already here for Rove- he wasted millions on crap results from coast-to-coast, and nobody's going to hire him for this sort of thing again- he can just sit there and bloviate on Hannity every night, 'blah blah blah CHART blah blah blah $$$ blah blah blah 'confident' blah blah blah blah blah' -yawn-
It's here for Obama's former crony-capitalist buddies on Wall Street, too- financial markets are tanking because most investors were sure that Romney was going to win, and since this was already priced-in to securities, now-disappointed traders are dumping in dismay... tell me they're not up for a Reaganomics-driven recovery right about now.
Yes, it's almost here for all of us: all we got to do is roll
Rollee-Pollee Rove to the curb and usher in a NEW generation of GOP leaders... the so-called 'Children of Reagan': the Rubios, Ryans, Gowdys, the Bachmanns... Ted Cruz... Mike Pence. THESE are people who get it- and because of that, they now stand ready to inherit the leadership mantle of the TEA Party
-which is to be indiscernible from the 'new' GOP- in our ongoing quest to salvage this great nation:
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Forbes:
Rubio already has earned rock star quality, both for his personal charisma and the charisma of his ideas.
Rubio is a leader in presenting prosperity-with-social-equity, fostering Reaganesque economic policies:
'We dont need new taxes. We need new taxpayers, people that are gainfully employed, making money and paying into the tax system.
And then we need a government that has the discipline to take that additional revenue and use it to pay down the debt and never grow it again. And thats what we should be focused on, and thats what were not focused on.'
Rubio leads the pack among GOP Insiders in the most recent National Journal Political Insiders Poll. Hes built a major league team and is first tier..
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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: americancrossroads; evangelicals; gingrich; iowa; karlrove; machiavelli; newt; newtgingrich; newtwasright; perry; plaat; rove; santorum; stalkinghorse; teaparty; vanderplaat
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To: ansel12
Which normal candidate and how? Go ahead, show how stupid you really are.
Hell, none of them could even get 20% of the GOP electorate to back them, none of them could have fund raised like Romney, none of them could have put together a national campaign. Each one of them could have been Alinskyized far easier than Romney. They were all weak, every one of them.
Go ahead, explain how any of them could have won.
Wild post my ass, you're just ignorant and naive.
To: ansel12
And you still never dealt with what I said.
Typical of someone so unintelligent, don't address the obvious.
To: Lakeshark
You really need to end this nasty personal attack stuff, Romney isn’t a God, he is a failed liberal politician.
Not every one has the deep feelings for him that you do, a conservative speaking unfavorably about the man should not stir up such passions within you.
Romney has a 20 year history of running for office, he sucks at it.
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posted on
11/15/2012 5:24:40 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
To: ansel12
Romney isnt a God, he is a failed liberal politician.In the eyes of his shriller, more spittle-fueled adherents and apologists hereabouts, Mittens is much like a cow wandering placidly through the streets of downtown Cairo: immune to any/all criticism and/or impediment by divine principle, if not an object of abject veneration outright.
The cow is holy. The cow is perfect. If the cow, for whatever reason(s) -- by whatever unguessable confluence of events, in the course of its dull, plodding amblings -- doesn't end up wherever the hell it was it wanted to go to in the first place: that's wholly and unalterably your fault, not the cow's.
The CINOs neither can nor will admit -- now or EVER -- that their rote, repeatedly failed p!ss-on-the-base-and-grovel-for-disaffected-liberals campaign strategy is what's genuinely at fault, for the second presidential election in a row.
The cow is holy.
The cow is perfect.
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posted on
11/15/2012 5:37:25 PM PST
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
To: ansel12
I never said Romney was a God, never implied it, don't even think he was all that great. Yet, you pretend that's the issue rather than addressing what I said (yep, you didn't address it again).
You are nothing but a stupid, Axelrod conservative who worked to get Bambi reelected by being a whiny, smarmy purist.
You didn't even vote for the one man who could have gotten rid of this stain.
GFY. And don't comment back, you're simply a despicable idiot who should have no standing in any conservative community. Any time you post on a thread I'm on, I'll let everyone know what a despicable worm you are.
To: Lakeshark
Respond to what? Raving and gibberish?
Post 101 was a thoughtful, and an accurate post, but you leaped at my throat with some wild, insane, foul, raving gibberish in post 119.
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posted on
11/15/2012 6:23:40 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
You are so right, the slavish devotion to the whack case from Mass. is insane.
Who would have guessed that when the anti-Reagan surfaced, that a large portion of the GOP would prostate themselves at his feet, and purr and coo, even after he led them to slaughter.
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posted on
11/15/2012 6:26:51 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)
To: onyx
Indeed. Thanks for the ping!
To: ansel12
Who would have guessed that when the anti-Reagan surfaced, that a large portion of the GOP would prostate themselves at his feet, and purr and coo, even after he led them to slaughter.I genuinely, honestly allowed myself to be gulled into believing -- after the humiliating (and wholly avoidable) electoral @ss-thumping of 2008, re: their failed, suicidal McCain Gambit -- that even the dimmest, most politically clueless GOP-e or CINO would be able to learn from brute experience, if nothing else, and avoid pursuing the exact same loser strategy all over again, four scant years later.
I mean: even the lowly Planarian worm can be taught how to successfully negotiate a simple maze, after all. ;)
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posted on
11/15/2012 10:38:07 PM PST
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
To: Hegewisch Dupa
To: C. Edmund Wright
“And why did I support Gingrinch?
He was the best combination of ability, accomplishment, persuasive ability, and issues in the field. Far from perfect, but he has accomplished a whole lot more for what we believe in than Rick ever will.
Yes,Rick takes the slings and arrows, because hes never effective. And Rick has sold more conservatism down the river in his short life than Newt ever did, altho I am fully aware of some of newts spectacularly bad moments.”
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EXACTLY, Mr Wright-
Reagan and Newt the ONLY effective true CONSERVATIVES in decades- ONLY these two Republicans actually reduced the size of government in any sort of meaningful way
And Gingrich wouldn’t have let Obama walk away from so many issues like Mittens did, he’d have nailed him to the wall in all three debates, not just one.
To: JCBreckenridge
And Santorum was a weak candidate on a fools crusade with an expansive view of the powers and priorities of government. That was my point, that it was a weak field of candidates. Sorry if that offended you so much you felt the need to lie about my position.
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posted on
11/16/2012 6:45:37 AM PST
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
To: Reaganite Republican
I know SNL and NBC are the enemy’s propaganda, but last night I watched the start of last Saturday night’s show, and it had some funny moments. It was Romney, after his loss, out on the balcony of his home saying things like “Gosh darn it all to heck” and sneaking shots of... Milk, from a carton. His family members try to get him to come in to the party, but he says he needs the time alone. Then Karl rove comes out. They did a great job recreating that egg shaped face. He says, “mitt, I think you can still win Ohio” and mitt, who has been sugary kind to everyone so far, grabs him and throws him off the balcony. I laughed out loud.
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posted on
11/16/2012 6:52:53 AM PST
by
Yaelle
To: TexanByBirth
But Carville was correct on election night. Before any state was closed, he was commenting on the race and said something like “ well ah reckon Ol Romney gon havtawin each state tonight wile Obama only got ta show up.”
I couldn’t stand that arrogant attitude! But at the end of that night he was damn right. Gotta give him credit. :(
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posted on
11/16/2012 7:03:04 AM PST
by
Yaelle
To: onyx
She made her decision is early October, well before the first primaries. Right up till about May, you couldn't walk down the FR avenue without tripping over someone with a "Draft Palin!!" sign.
That's the kind of delusion I am talking about.
To: onyx
following up....As I have said here many times, I like Sarah Palin a lot. She has a great personal story and she and I are in agreement on nearly all the issues. I would vote for her with confidence if she were the nominee.
But she's still a politician after all, and the idea that she is in some way uniquely positioned to be the only person who can save America.....that's just malarkey, as Joe B. would say.
To: allmendream
And I’m sorry I bothered to talk to someone who hates conservatives more than Obama.
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posted on
11/16/2012 9:45:19 AM PST
by
JCBreckenridge
(They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
To: JCBreckenridge
Wow, you just cannot help yourself but to be a lying twit, can you?
Pointing out that making birth control an issue isn't going to even win Catholics, let alone most conservatives, let alone the general election - doesn't mean I hate conservatives more than 0bama.
What it does mean is that I don't find such nanny state garbage conservative, and it makes Santorum a weak candidate who couldn't even win reelection in his home State.
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posted on
11/16/2012 9:48:56 AM PST
by
allmendream
(Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
To: ansel12
Raving and gibberish?That's all you've done for years Mr. Axelrod conservative.
GFY.
To: Lakeshark
I guess you do the best you can with dealing without ever anger issues you have, but man, it sure gets tiresome reading nothing but irrational, personal ragings from you, at some point you need to try and steer yourself towards the politics of freerepublic and of the posts, and thread topics, rather than seeing it as a place for you to release intense personal feelings and rage.
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posted on
11/16/2012 2:10:34 PM PST
by
ansel12
(The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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