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To: SquarePants

Here’s my approach. Saving lives.

From my home page:

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I’ve posted this in a couple of places and it doesn’t seem to get much more than a yawn, even though it’s kinda-sorta an incremental approach.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1908148/posts?page=125#125

I believe a fetus is a human being who deserves protection under the law from being killed.
***I do too. That fetus deserves protection extended by the state.

I do wonder if it is biblical to extend “full” protection to a fetus? I.e. when a man hurts a pregnant woman, he’s expected to pay an eye for an eye & a tooth for a tooth. But if the unborn baby is killed, the price is not the same.

Perhaps it is time to consider a 3 (or even 4) tiered system of protection.

Tier 1: Living, viable, late term baby which will not be aborted unless the life of the mother is at stake.

Tier 2: Living, not-yet-viable pre-born human who should have the right to protection and life and a safe womb to which it can attain viability. Cannot be aborted unless there is an open rape case associated with the pregnancy or the life of the mother is at stake.

Tier 3: Living, early stage, not yet viable pre-born human for whom we do not extend the rights of life in this society because of a historical snag where we once considered such tissue not to be a baby. We as a society thought it was best to consider it a private decision. I personally do not believe in Tier3 abortions, but I can understand that there are many who think it is a “right to choose” at this stage. It may be time to consider a program where the woman declares her pregnancy and intent to abort. Our societal function at this point would be to provide a family that is willing to adopt this baby and to put up this woman for 6-8 months in a safe environment so the baby can grow and maybe the woman can learn some life skills. If our society cannot muster the forces necessary to save this baby, the woman has the sickening “right” to abort this pregnancy. Time for us to put up or shut up.

With a 3-tiered plan in place, women would stop using abortion as a means of birth control. Millions of lives would be saved. We would extend the right to life to every human that we have resources to save. Unfortunately, if we cannot put up the resources to save the Tier3 babies, we still would have this horrible practice staining our nation’s soul.

125 posted on 10/08/2007 1:43:20 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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3 posted on 11/11/2012 8:58:59 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

I think the real problem’is this.

We allow one special protected class of citizen to legally murder another, if it desires, for any reason. We call them pregnant women. We cannot say we are a civilized society if one citizen can legally murder another. If anyone else does, we punish them. Except the pregnant woman. Or the abortion doctor, if the woman wants abortion. Dad causes miscarriage, jail. Drunk driver causes miscarriage, jail. If the woman wants the baby anyone who kills it before birth is punished.

We can’t claim to be civilized if one class of person gets to play God with another person’s life. This must be addressed.


44 posted on 11/12/2012 12:16:56 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kevmo

There’s another issue associated with making abortion illegal that the pro-abortionists bring out. The question of punishment.

If you make abortion illegal at some stage, what should the punishment be for the abortionist and for the mother who has her unborn baby aborted? If it’s a life like any other, than does an abortion constitute first degree murder, with its associated penalty?

I’ve never heard a good answer to this question by any pro-life person. It is crucial that we have an answer to this that we can confidently defend.


47 posted on 11/12/2012 12:37:43 AM PST by aquila48
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To: Kevmo
I do wonder if it is biblical to extend “full” protection to a fetus? I.e. when a man hurts a pregnant woman, he’s expected to pay an eye for an eye & a tooth for a tooth. But if the unborn baby is killed, the price is not the same.

Very sloppy exegesis of Exodus 21:22-25, to say the least. 1. Assumes without any evidence that the fight results in a dead child, and 2. Ignores the element of intent in the law, as though a punishment for manslaughter rather than first degree murder is because a victim is less than human.

And so on. See:

http://www.prolifetraining.com/FiveMinute6.asp

Cordially,

157 posted on 11/14/2012 4:40:07 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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