More than 6 million self-described “evangelicals” voted for Obama.

WordPress ^ | 11-8-12 | Joel Rosenberg

[Colofornian]

Polls are either wrong or we are facing Evangelists that no longer believe in God. Unfortunately, I think it is the latter.

From the #s I crunched, yes, more than 6 million voters -- both in THIS election -- as well as the previous one...voted for Obama.

Keep in mind this still only represents 20% of all white Evangelicals.

(I mean even 22% of gays & lesbians voted for Bush in one of the elections...2004)

So, yes, this is terrible that 6 million Evangelicals voted for Obama.

Especially when you realize that 16 million Catholics voted for Obama...and probably around 20 million non-Evangelical Protestants voted for Obama...

[morphing libertarian]

Uh! So they voted for a Moslem, but not a Mormon. Sure thing.

[AllAmericanGirl44]

Satan is alive and thriving. Sad

[KavMan]

We’re doomed! A radical like Obama getting that many evangelicals, any other democrat running for POTUS is bound to get even more!!!

[PMAS]

Add up the amount of votes that 0bama won in the swing states of Ohio, Virginia, Florida, Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Iowa.
Throw in Wisonsin & Nevada as well.

It wasn’t that hard to cheat a little in each of those states, enough to win them.

The GOP needs to investigate the votes in each of those states before they are ratified on Dec 17

[Deagle]

Sorry, you can NOT be an Evangelical and vote for Obama! That means that either our definition of Evangelical is wrong or we have loosen the idea so that anyone can define themselves as an Evangelical with no idea what that actually means!

The short version is that we do not have Evangelicals that would vote for Obama - otherwise, they could NOT be Evangelicals - a major contraindication here for me!

In reality NO REAL EVANGELICALS would ever vote for Obama!

[muawiyah]

All the polls are meaningless for technical reasons having nothing to do with their content. Augury (observing something about birds in flight ~ probably droppings on sidewalks) is in high fashion. They pretend to do random sampling, then make it up based on a totally different body of information having nothing to do with any polls.

So, that's what's wrong with the polls (SEE PEW 91%).

Now, about asking people if they are Evangelicals, you'll find that term to be quite flexible. It includes every sort of Christian BUT the Catholics, and even then I've heard an MSM news gal refer to the Pope as an extreme Evangelical.

We live and learn eh!

I carefully differentiate between regular old fashioned Protestants and Holy Rollers by referring to the Holy Rollers. The only folks I've ever heard criticize me for that were Episcopals and they are almost not Christian in any meaningful sense anymore, so who are they to complain.

What we need is some data on the Holy Rollers. They are the fastest growing Christian component and we don't know how they vote ~ but they have 2 or 3 potential Presidential candidates already lined up and ready to go in the future.

Let's get the regular pollsters out there interrogating some of those self-described "Evangelicals" to tell us if they're really Holy Rollers or something else ~ denomination names might well be in order for this.

Then the Episcopals can scream and shout over that. Should be a regular circus.

[PMAS]

Doesn’t the RNC handle the GOTV for the candidate ?

[muawiyah]

Obama knows. He lost almost 10 million voters. I bet they weren't left wing lunatics.

Note, the article gets the number wrong on the 2008 election ~ Reps had 59 million and the Dems had 69 million votes. That's 128 million votes, not 122 million.

[RegulatorCountry]

... and yet more Evangelicals voted for Romney on a percentage basis than did Mormons themselves. 1% higher, in fact.

So, stop with the blamecasting upon Evangelicals please. Just look at a 2012 Presidential election results map, for goodness sake. See all those red states? Practically all Evangelical strongholds.

A worse case of barking up the wrong tree entirely, I've seldom seen.

[Graneros]

Good point but that was before we had 4 years of Obama. I’m not sayin’ Romney was then or is now a good choice. I’m just sayin’ based on polls and just the mood of the nation and most especially The Republican Party the momentum and enthusiasm for Mitt was phenomenal. No I didn’t just see the USA through rose colored glasses this election cycle. I speak as a person who did not and does not care for Mitt Romney. He is far too liberal for me. I still voted for him though. It was a vote against Obama more than a vote for Romney. I was far, far from alone there. But Republicans voting against Romney in a Primary vs not voting for the Republican Candidate in a General election, and one of this magnitude, makes no sense.

Do you really believe there were fewer Republicans voting this election than last? I don’t. Even if the evidence is just circumstantial my gut tells me this election stinks of corruption.

[dfwgator]

“Even the elect will be deceived.”

[muawiyah]

You guys are lifting stuff I was using in August 2011 Before the beginning of the primaries. Romney lost to McCain. He was barely in the 20% range and wasn't getting any better ~ I proposed that in the 2012 primary season Romney would get pretty much the same percentages he'd gotten in 2008 provided he had a competitor.

So, he got rid of the competitors by hook or crook.

Otherwise, he was the same old 20% guy, and in the end McCain's numbers beat Romney's numbers ~ except for some technical details.

I said Bachmann's hubby would have done better. I stand behind that.

[Graneros]

I couldn’t agree more. From your post to God’s ears.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

So they chose the candidate that represents the MOST present Danger....?

See this thread :

What was Ambassador Stevens’ Role in the Gun Running?

[Slump Tester]

WTH are you talking about? I haven’t sealed anything. I voted for the American!

[gusty]

These polls are not based on what you personally consider an Evangelical. They are base on what the poll takers consider themselves to be. Its a big difference. Millions of Blacks and Hispanics consider themselves Evangelicals and when asked will check that box. I bet you the Rev. Wright considers himself an Evangelical. However as we all just found out, race trumps religion every time

[imardmd1]

My uncle and his entire family go to some church that has a name like “The church of Jesus Christ, social redeemer” or some crazy crap like that. Its pure communism behind a cross.

A "church" doesn't have to have a name like that. The constituents of all the major denominations are attending assemblies where the major indoctrination is in the "social gospel" and in "social justice" which is exactly what you say. Their communicants are not believing in defeat of sin in their lives by conviction, deep godly sorrow, confession, repentance, and new birth in the realm of the Spirit; and separation from phony religion.

Declaring association with Christ without becoming dead to self, sin as a master, and the world characterizes the message of such denominations.

[muawiyah]

Mormons didn't vote as faithfully for Romney as did Evangelicals (according to this or any other poll). Some of them are absolutely apostate and vote regularly for Harry Reid and his merry band of gaudiantan marauders.

Bet you didn't know that did you.

All Mormons are not pure ~

But you cannot be a Christian and vote for Obama.

[Callahan]

I have noted this on couple other threads. People keep posting this stuff based on the Tuesday totals. There are still votes being counted. Romney is going end up with more votes than McCain got and Obama will be short of 2008 by only a couple million not 6M.