Posted on 11/08/2012 5:44:53 AM PST by Mr. K
This is the time of year when all the talk on the radio is about which coaches with losing records will be fired.
"Reince" Prebus should be first
Amen to that! Time to clean house!
I’m not sure what to do with national pollsters knowing that the establishment pollsters were giving good information and our trusted pollsters were feeding us pablum to keep us from giving up.
I want the unvarnished facts, and I don’t want “our side pollsters.” I want straight shooters unemotionally delivering facts. I think people are far more likely to roll of their sleeves and work harder than they are to turn defeatist and simply give up. Giving up is not a conservative value.
Yep. And either fire Rasmussen or put an end to early voting and get serious about ending vote fraud.
Prebus is an embarrassment. He made himself look like an arse with his cocky attitude and reassurances that we were doing better. In fact he couldn’t even get more turnout which was a killer and he didn’t get enough pressure to keep guys like Akin or Mourdock (both over the edge guys) from running. We lost 2 Senate seats that should be conservative (note not over the top wacko) but conservative seats. Now we have McCaskill and Donnelley in a Senate with 55 Dems (and 2 Indys who will caucus with them) and 45 Republicans of which 12 are moderates like Kirk from IL and other one from Maine who are not line in the sand guys/gals.
Who are these pollsters on our side lying to us?
I saw Gallup and Rasmussen within three points of the final, Dem cheating-boosted, results. I think they were both right that Romney was in the lead by a reasonable bit two to three weeks ago, and then it tightened again.
You make very good points but the bottom line - he lost he needs to go.
A pollster calls and you look to see who called before you answer or use the call back feature.
Response rates are down to 9%! That disaster is compounded by the fact that some select pressure groups are able to misrepresent their numbers disproportionately up to 11 times normal simply by responding to all polls!
None of the polls turned out correct, but some folks using outside information were able to deduce events without actually referring to the polls ~ they gave you numbers based on their educated guesses ~ not on their polls, or anyone else's polls.
This is called AUGURY, not POLLING.
The Romans used that practice effectively for several centuries ~ right down to the ruse of random events, to wit, turning a bunch of birds loose and watching how they flew off. Worked on the Goobers in ancient times; still works on the Goobers.
Anyone who worked in the highest levels of the Bush administration or the Mc-Romney campaigns must now be considered persona non grata in GOP circles. We must remove them from positions of power in the party.
Their strategy of being Democrat-lite, while trying to play up likeability instead of policy and vision, has destroyed the national GOP.
I think WE HAVE BEEN HAD (again)
I saw lines like I never saw before, and yet total R turnout was DOWN?????
I think this was MASSIVE voter fraud. The polls oversampling Dems +11 were a SETUP because if the true polls showing a huge R lead were shown and THEN Obama won, we would be screaming
They knew they were able to manufacuter votes at-will and pre-planned the polls to reflect it to avoid a meltdown.
“I want straight shooters unemotionally delivering facts”
Could not agree more, I think part of it is the disdain which the establishment has for Conservatives, they think we are all a bunch of uneducated hicks who need to be feed lies to get us to vote..
Not out of the realm but don’t know how we prove this other than some examples in North Carolina.
The message didn’t lose because the message wasn’t communicated. Mitt Romney was the most qualified person we had running for office in a long time. He was deemed by a majority of people to be the most qualified in the area people wanted to see improvement, the economy. He didn’t win because the media embargoed him and accepted Obama’s definition.
We’re playing a 21st century game with 20th century thinking and messaging. Back in 2001, we entered the era of the permanent campaign and we just campaign once every two years. That won’t flush anymore.
The National Socialists used to have party offices in every locality and they campaigned for every vote. Even when they lost, they increased their visibility. They identified disparate groups that felt they weren’t represented and tailored messaging to each of them. Even if they opposed each other, they just told them what they needed to hear to get their vote. They recognized that all they needed was a 50+1 plurality to get where they needed to go and it was achieved by any means necessary. They had very attractive people go to every public function and represent, they had people that were full time paid staffers that just wrote to newspapers and blamed the problems on the Jews, the Zionists, the bankers, the shopkeepers. It was a constant drumbeat, day after day, issue after issue the media jumped on board. They divided and conquered.
This is what the Democrats have been doing since 2005.
Guess who the Jews are? us.
It’s not Reince, it’s not Rove, it’s us. We need to dedicate ourselves to the permanent campaign and if we refuse, we do so at our own peril.
I think there’s a pretty good chance of that. How about Romney’s real-time voter-tracking application—was it only counting GOP-registered voters? The tricky part is that they only would have had to skim a couple percent of the vote in a handful of states. I don’t think 10 million votes were vaporized, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a well-place half million or so were.
I don’t think you have to worry about Priebus and the Priebus brand. He saw to that himself. He will not survive the fallout for two reasons: First, the GOP under his “leadership” failed to grasp the strategy and strength of the opposition. In wartime this would get a general’s army massacred. Second, he conducted the most expensive campaign in GOP history for an incredibly poor result. So, whatever can be said about his ability to manage money before the campaign, his ability to manage it during a campaign cancels that out and then some.
I won’t say anything about his publicly perceived persona.
Rainsay’s backstab was *the* evocative moment this election. As soon as he declared war on the conservatives, he was done. We stayed home and let Romney bury himself.
Ending early voting is a MUST!
Screw the GOP!
This isn’t directed directly at you but human nature says otherwise. Even on our side, when we are given the cold-hard facts that “we” don’t like, we’ll deny it’s true. I’ve seen it too many times on this site when they don’t believe this or that and that they have all of this anecdotal evidence that “proves†the opposite.
OK, here's a fact:
No one who is identified primarily as a social conservative can win a statewide race anywhere in the United States.
The best cover for socon beliefs is liberty - i.e., what socon families need most right now is to be left alone by the state. But first we must come to terms with the no more Akins - no more Mourdocks issue, which I imagine will be very difficult.
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