Posted on 11/08/2012 12:19:42 AM PST by Mr170IQ
The clues:
Looking at the results from the election, it seems very suspicious that there was so little Republican turnout, even though anecdotal evidence shows that both enthusiasm and turnout was much higher this time.
The Theory:
I believe that the democrats managed to electronically drop a percentage (maybe 20%) of the votes in the republican majority precincts of the swing states. In order not to be too obvious, they dropped democrat votes as well as republican votes. This enabled them to get those absurd D+8 and D+13 numbers that the pre-election polls were using.
Proving it:
In order to prove this we would have to pick several republican precincts in swing states that showed oddly poor turnout.
Then we need to obtain the official list of everyone who voted in those precincts in this election, as well as the complete list of registered voters in that precinct. Then we would have to contact every registered voter and ask them, if they voted in the election, and if so, when and where (but not for whom).
If there is a highly-significant number of registered voters who claim to have voted, but are recorded as NOT voting, then we need to get legal affidavits from all of them, affirming that they voted, as well as where and when.
If possible, also find witnesses who observed them voting and get affidavits from them as well.
Fixing it:
From the states where we have proven that votes were being thrown out, we would need to get a judge to block the state from officially certifying the electors, or we need enough congressmen on our side to block accepting the electoral votes from those states.
Without 270 electors voting for Obama/Biden, the election for President is thrown to the House of Representatives , and the election for Vice-President is thrown to the Senate. We end up with Romney/Biden - which is a hell of a lot better than Obama/Biden for another four years.
To go along with your proposal I will add mine. When the House members and the Senate members meet jointly to ‘confirm’ the elector votes for Obama/Biden one member from each body should abstain/object or just plain out and out present the issues of fraud and the argument that the named electors for Obama/Biden be held pending resolution of the numerous probabilities of fraud. The members must be confronted with the question of fraudulent voting on an individual basis and forced to deal with any such demonstrated probabilities as to how they look at fraudulent voting. I recall Nixon had the opportunity to challenge the Illinois vote for Kennedy. Nixon chose not to do so for his own reasons of ‘unity’. The same might be true for Romney but this is much more important as to the future of the USA than a ‘Nixon’ feeling of unity. If Romney rebuffs an effort to remedy gross fraud than I believe he should not have been chosen to lead a serious challenge to Obama and Obama’s enablers and is not a fervent believer in the Constitution. I would hope Romney would have such a strong faith for our Constitution that he would not shirk from fighting for a fair and needed action in support.
To go along with your proposal I will add mine. When the House members and the Senate members meet jointly to ‘confirm’ the elector votes for Obama/Biden one member from each body should abstain/object or just plain out and out present the issues of fraud and the argument that the named electors for Obama/Biden be held pending resolution of the numerous probabilities of fraud. The members must be confronted with the question of fraudulent voting on an individual basis and forced to deal with any such demonstrated probabilities as to how they look at fraudulent voting. I recall Nixon had the opportunity to challenge the Illinois vote for Kennedy. Nixon chose not to do so for his own reasons of ‘unity’. The same might be true for Romney but this is much more important as to the future of the USA than a ‘Nixon’ feeling of unity. If Romney rebuffs an effort to remedy gross fraud than I believe he should not have been chosen to lead a serious challenge to Obama and Obama’s enablers and is not a fervent believer in the Constitution. I would hope Romney would have such a strong faith for our Constitution that he would not shirk from fighting for a fair and needed action in support.
the rats stole NOTHING
the BROKEN Re-puke-lican Party, LOST, LOST, LOST it.....
by letting duffus scumbags like Steele(past tense) and Carl {Pillsbury do’h boy} Rove run the asylum
either we take back the party or we start a NEW one.
My advice- dont give up. Dont wait until 2016.
Continue to fight him NOW.
Bengrazi
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My husband and I have been sitting around and talking about the low Republican turn out and it just doesn’t make any sense. How do you have such massive crowds in OH yet they don’t show up when it counts? Obama had much smaller crowds. Where the hell were the Chic Fil A crowds. Did they all vote for Obama? That slug Sandra Fluk had ten people show up at her rally. I just don’t get it. Why would Republicans stay at home during an election that was this crucial? Something doesn’t seem right?
Rove was basing his assessment on 2008 turnout numbers. The “decision desk” has the 2012 numbers.
We MUST be sure this never happens again. I dont have a clue HOW, but still..
It shouldn’t be hard but it will probably be impossible in the current climate. We need to do the following; go back to one day of voting, require photo id, use paper ballots and when you drop your ballot in the box, you dip your finger in purple ink that will dissappear in 24 hours but cannot be washed off prior to the end of the voting day. Furthermore we should make sure that the vote is not tabulated until our soldiers votes are counted. The fact that these jerks worry about a photo id requirement disenfranchising some binge drinking college student but routinely disenfranchises our military infuriates me.
The problem with accepting it and moving on is that it will be understood that we accepted it. It will then become the accepted norm. As brazen as the dems are, they’ll begin to have awards ceremonies with categories such as, “best performance by a leading opponent”.
You say you don’t know how, then suggest the most sensible and logical steps I’ve heard.
Interesting theory. Absent the verification of your individual vote tally in the pool of individual vote tallies there is no way to guarantee it. A numbered date-time stamped receipt of the transaction is not given. A public record of the numbered receipts/tallies is not provided. The possibilities for fraud are astronomical.
Voter ID and a sign in required.
Paper ballots that are able to be audited
Purple ink for finger dipping
For vote counting the paper ballots would be deposited into a locked container and everyone with access to that container would sign a chain of custody attached to that container.
If any irregularities are found with the ballots in the container everyone who signed the chain of custody is summarily executed.
Those machines malfunctioned for Romney voters, when punched it showed up for Obama on the screen. It took them as much as 3 times to finally get it to stay on Romney.
So., 2 votes for Obama, 1 Vote for Romney. As we DO NOT KNOW what happened internally in those machines, to those Obama Votes
3 votes for Obama and 1 vote for Romney. Voter thinks the Obama vote was cleared when it actually was not. I do think that is what happened in many states. That is not dropping votes for Romney. It is adding to the Obama votes.
Penny here, penny there, pretty soon you have 270.
Those machines, imo, malfunctioned on purpose.
Sounds good to me! Good luck!
I think you are right about the machines.
The dems push that early voting thing to get a tally of what they will need election day.
I also believe they use more than one method to cheat the vote.
In totality, it gets them what they need to win. They key in on the swing states. As long as they get the EC votes, they don’t care about the popular vote. Dropping Romney vote by machine is a good way to make the popular vote look valid. Face it, how many elderly voters noticed if their vote was switched to Obama if they weren’t looking for it?
Another thing, we didn’t seem to have these problems too much is all red states, did we?
I don’t see how you rig this election by ADDING votes to Obama.
If that were the case he wouldn’t have shed 10 million votes from 2008. If ALLLLL these people are voting for Romney then you have to conclude that Obama’s real vote total was something like 50 million people. And while that would be hilarious if true, that’s just not practical to think.
Romney had less votes than McCain, despite winning I’s by enough of a margin that he was leading McCain’s 08 total by 2.5 million votes at the start of election day.
Somewhere along the way 3-5 million votes just up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
I don't think those machines DROPPED the Romney vote,they just added 3 more to the Obama count.
See, the voter sees the error & thinks the Obama vote was CLEARED off, then made another attempt to vote Romney, 2 more times until it finally HELD the Romney vote.
BUT, internally the machine NEVER CLEARED the Obama vote. So Obama gets 3 votes, Romney gets his ONE VOTE. Pretty nice huh?
One for you, 3 for me, one for you, 3 for me. SEE?
They NEVER DROPPED any votes for anyone, they simply ADDED for the WON. Hocus Pocus. OH, LOOKIE Lookie OBAMA WINS, suprise, suprise, acting all suprised.
No one can convince me otherwise, it was those machines. With all the Technology out there, anything is possible these days.
Agreed, if caught stealing over here, Plan b,c,d,e & f are still in play.
Plus suppress the Military votes. THAT HAS GOT TO STOP and NOW. There is no reason for this, with all the electronic equipment available today.
Give each Soldier their own voting CODE number, or a password like we have to use to access our banks, they can use their Iphones to vote.
We are living in and among TECHNOLOGY today, it's everywhere you go and all that you hear. YET, they can't figure out how to get our TROOPS their RIGHT TO VOTE. Unforgivable.
Where the HELL is Congress on this matter? Is it nothing to them that we continue to let the Soldiers get shafted every election time? Is it nothing to the RNC?
The 2008 votes are irrelevant. You don’t base this on 2008. This was different race. You only needed to take enough from Romney add to Obama votes in key states. Enough to win the EC vote by a safe margin. After all, that is all that counts. Who cares what the 2008 totals were? They are meaningless. They cheated then too. Probably didn’t have to, but it was a good way to test the waters.
Go back to paper ballots. My Mississippi County went democrat for the first time in 63 years and there’s been NO demographic change.
No receipts are given, not even a voting number from the electronic machines. I want a valid receipt on my vote.
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