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President Obama Wins Reelection - America Declines
Political Realities ^ | 11/07/12 | LD Jackson

Posted on 11/07/2012 4:51:23 AM PST by LD Jackson

First of all, let me congratulate President Obama on his successful reelection. I did not vote for him and I am not happy with the results, but he did win the election. As unhappy as I am, that is how America rolls. We have successful transitions of power, instead of the kind of violence we see in Libya, Syria, Egypt, etc. As sour as these grapes may be, I'll still take America over any country in the world.

Having said that, let me get to some of my personal feelings. I am still in shock that the majority of Americans want another four years of Barack Obama. We have had four years of dismal economic growth, even though he promised we would see an economic boom because of the money he was spending. That did not materialize, yet he wants to do it again. Again, the shock that the majority of Americans believe that is the path we need to take. Even though the exit polls showed a majority of voters believed we are on the wrong track, they gave Obama another four years with which to continue that track. That is a major contradiction that I can not reconcile, at least this close to the election. Other trends that worry me is how the turnout looked in some states, but that will also have to come later. I just don't have it in me to look at it and give a proper analysis.

Please forgive me for grumbling about what is taking place. I do not consider myself a poor loser, but I am extremely disturbed by what is transpiring in our country. The number of those who are on government dependency has continued to grow in the past four years and I see nothing to suggest that trend will reverse. Is this what Americans really want, a country where the government provides for so many people? Apparently so and that troubles me greatly. Where has the America gone, the country where everyone had opportunity and took it, instead of waiting on the government to give them what they need?

What will happen in the next four years is fairly clear. Here is a short paragraph from President Obama's acceptance speech.

You elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. And in the coming weeks and months, I am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together. Reducing our deficit. Reforming our tax code. Fixing our immigration system. Freeing ourselves from foreign oil. We’ve got more work to do.
Does that sound familiar? It should, as it is the same refrain he was using in 2008, except for the part of having more work to do. I find it disconcerting to see him falling back on the same mantra of wanting to work across the aisle, when he has made it abundantly clear that he has no desire to do so. This is one time when actions truly do speak louder than words. No matter what he says, Obama has shown no inclination that he wants to work with Republicans. His idea of compromise is simple. They give him everything he wants and they get nothing in return. Unless he grants them a few obligatory spending cuts, ten years down the road. I see nothing good coming from another four years of the same song and dance.

President Obama has already stated it would be easier to work without Congress. He has done so, via Executive Order, numerous times. Now that he has no reelection worries, how far will he be willing to go to enact his agenda? And make no mistake, he has an agenda that will harm America. Some may believe he will be a normal lame duck President and work to produce a legacy worthy of the Office of the President, but I think not. He now has the flexibility he desired and I am afraid he will make full use of it.

What will a second Obama term look like? Examine his first term and then double down on that. He has nothing to hold him back, except for the Republicans in the House of Representatives, and I am not at all convinced they have what it takes to stand in the gap. Without new and bold leadership, I am afraid they will fold and capitulate, making it almost impossible to stop the agenda Obama will certainly put forward.

A regulatory nightmare is on its way and there seems little we can do to stop it. Obamacare will be fully implemented and forever entrenched in our country. Taxes are almost certain to go up and spending is almost certain to increase. The only thing I can see that can convince Americans real change is needed is a complete and total economic collapse. Until that happens, we seem to be willing to stay in a deep sleep, oblivious to what is transpiring in America.

When Barack Obama was campaigning in 2008, he promised to bring our country together, to mend the divisions that already existed. He has accomplished nothing in that regard, except to make it worse. America is more divided than it has ever been and much of that is due to his "us against them" rhetoric. He may be an American by birth, but he is not an American by spirit. A real American would not use such rhetoric.

I am truly concerned for America. I realize God is in full control and nothing happens without his knowledge. I also know that God sometimes gives us the desires of our heart, even if those desires are not good for us. I am afraid that is what is happening. We are getting the government we deserve.


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To: LD Jackson

We are now out numbered and out voted by a few antbeds in urban areas that are so dense that they throw off the whole vote.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 5:52:56 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: LD Jackson

“First of all, let me congratulate President Obama on his successful reelection.”

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I appreciate your civility—but I cannot join you in that sentiment. I am just too heartbroken this morning.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 6:04:35 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Pray for America.)
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To: angcat

“I had to console my 17 year old daughter last night who feels her future is gone.”

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Your daughter is wise.

The burden on our children is the worst part of this debacle. At the risk of repeating myself, it is heartbreaking.

Perhaps, with time, a phoenix will rise from the ashes; it is young people like your daughter who give me hope for the future.

She has great parents. Please give her a hug from me (I’m a 50 year-old mom with a 17 year-old son and 13 year-old daughter), and from, I imagine, the rest of the FReeper community.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 6:10:13 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Pray for America.)
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To: LD Jackson

bflr.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 6:13:17 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: justiceseeker93
none of the usual analytical methods work when both candidates are drawing a declining number of voters out to vote. At the moment, with probably 98% of all votes counted, BOTH Romney and Obama received fewer votes than George W. Bush in 2004!

Historically total votes for President simply don't drop ~ but that seems to be the case this year.

People are not happy. Time for me to get out my crates of red armbands and start selling them on the net. Someone got a grievance, show the world with a red arm band ~ $10 ~ such and so post office box ~ money orders only!

BTW, the vote totals will change as absentees are counted ~ someday. But I don't think anybody is hiding 10 million spare votes out there.

25 posted on 11/07/2012 6:19:58 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: justiceseeker93
Um, early voting was down in all of our key counties. That's why we thought we had a chance to win.

TURNOUT WAS DOWN nationally by 14 million (hardly a sign of massive fraud). Obama won by 9.5 m in 08, we should have had a 5m vote margin of victory. It wasn't fraud.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 6:23:17 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: TBP

“When do the concentration camps open?”

There’s a chilling thought! Maybe they are going to build the furnaces, first.

After all-other ‘leaders’ with radically populist and polarizing agendas solved THEIR social problems by building furnaces!

I realize this is a really bizarre thing to say... but at this point, I feel that the word ‘impossible’ has been deleted from the lexicon and that I can expect ANYTHING!


27 posted on 11/07/2012 6:36:41 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2012/11/this-country-is-finished.html


28 posted on 11/07/2012 6:41:43 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: proud American in Canada

Thank you :)


29 posted on 11/07/2012 6:46:25 AM PST by angcat
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To: LS; All

FYI, there is an FR thread about illegal aliens voting in Nevada.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 6:50:38 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: angcat
“O” pawned the future of young people and of everyone else as well.

There is positively NO merit in a government which is in place soley to guarantee the comforts of citizens who have been reduced to the state of fat lazy cattle, and who possess no sense of responsibility for themselves. This is an immoral state for human beings. This group of citizens has no pride in theselves as individuals or shame at being maintained by the state!

“...rationalist humanism amounts to the attempt to construct civil and political society from an ethical vacuum....” Capaldi

31 posted on 11/07/2012 6:51:53 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: justiceseeker93

Manufactured is my guess. Romney did nothing wrong that I can see. If anything, he did not take the bait. I would be checking not only voters; I would be checking the SOS of each state before the commit felonies when signing off on this guy. It has been reported many times how Soros bought them off.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 7:40:39 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: justiceseeker93

They didn’t allow the military to vote. Add that to the fraud list.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 7:58:00 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: LS

Why do you think so many Pubbies sat out the race and didn’t vote?

Were they evangelicals who didn’t like Mitt’s Mormonism?

Conservatives who didn’t like Mitt’s past stances?

I am so confused why anyone would sit out this election..

Thanks,

Ed


34 posted on 11/07/2012 9:40:53 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Just A Nobody; smoothsailing; ...
They didn’t allow the military to vote. Add that to the fraud list.

I agree with you that the military vote was suppressed by failures of state bureaucrats to mail out ballots on time. Several GOP congresscritters were complaining about that last week.

Yes, that's disgraceful and even criminal if it was deliberate and politically motivated on the part of the 'Rats. But as a single factor, I don't think it's enough by itself to account for the numbers we've seen.

Now here's something that's intuitively impossible to explain by anything but compromised vote recording and/or tabulation: Romney got 2 and half million fewer votes nationally than John McCain did four years ago. (Just heard that on Rush Limbaugh's show.) Now how can that be explained in view of the obvious enthusiasm displayed by the very large crowds, etc., compared to McCain? There was no comparison between the two.

35 posted on 11/07/2012 10:45:44 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: TBP

When do the concentration camps open?

And who is going to open them?
Romney won the military vote 3 to 1. After Obama left Americans to die in Libya, they are even more anti-Obama.
Then factor in a 100 million hunters/ firearms owners, many who are police ex police ex military etc and just who is going to end up locked up if they try that shit?


36 posted on 11/07/2012 10:46:08 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Romney won the military vote 3 to 1.

Sounds about right, but the total military vote was suppressed. Please see posts #s 33 and 35.

37 posted on 11/07/2012 10:50:23 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Voting machines were voting Obama when Romney was selected. That was all over the place. How many votes was that?


38 posted on 11/07/2012 10:56:23 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: justiceseeker93; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Sun; ...

This is a discouraging outcome. I don’t know how anyone could vote for Obama this year. There is a Milky Way size debt, continued high unemployment, a rising Arab Spring with a decidedly radiacl Islamist tilt, and a President who’s more interested in celebrity than policy. Is there anything he’s been successful at?

The fact that we almost won provides a small spring of hope. As of now, Obama’s popular vote margin is only
60,132,028 to 57,432,727, far from a mandate. The Republicans waged a national campaign while the Democrats ran a state-by-state campaign and that brought them the electoral vote. Conservatives not only held the U.S. House of Representatives, but may increase our margin. The outcome in the U.S. Senate races are entirely due to poor candidates on our side (especially Missouri and Indiana).

The American people who make their choices intelligently need to hang in there for another four years and hope that no U.S. Supreme Court justices retire.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 11:02:00 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Muslims are a people of tolerance, life,and peace, and if you don't agree, they'll murder you)
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To: two23

Please, it is not Matt Drudge and Anne Coulter’s fault.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 11:07:18 AM PST by Perdogg
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