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To: bluecat6

What does Indonesian law say about the children of the foreign lady?


78 posted on 12/12/2012 7:30:19 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Again from this link:

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3ae6b4ec8.html

Article 13.

(2)The citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia acquired by a mother also applies to her children who have no legal family relationship with the father, who have not reached the age of 18 and are not married yet after they have resided and are in Indonesia.

“acquired by a mother also applies to her children who have no legal family relationship with the father,...”

Lets repeat that one more time....

“acquired by a mother also applies to her children who have no legal family relationship with the father,...”

Did Obama II have a legal family relationship with the (natural) father? No. The 1964 divorce defines that fact. So with no relationship to the (natural)father and his mother aquiring citizenship. Obama II squired Indonesian citizenship - automatically.

Did Lolo adopt Obama II? It does not matter as to citizenship. As of March 1966 SAD was an Indonesian citizen according to Article 7 paragraph (2). Based on Article 13 paragraph (2) so was Obama. This according to Indonesian law at the time!

As of March 1966 the family was still in the US, likely living as a Americans - at least mother and child. But after the entire family moved to Indonesia in 1967 the entire family would have been considered Indonesian - based on Indonesian law. It would appear that SAD kept her US citizenship and kept dual passports - though illegal in Indonesia. As long as she carried herself an Indonesian while in Indonesia no one would know she held her US passport. But she probably had an Indonesian passport as well.

Obama II would have been considered an Indonesian citizen upon arrival in Indonesia. Hence he could get into state schools, etc. The ‘adoptive’ status had no bearing on that. His mother was legally Indonesian and as we see above - so was he.

As stated, I think SAD - in defiance of Indonesian law - kept her ‘dual citizenship’ in place. But could she do the same for Obama II? My guess is no. At some point in time he probably got his Indonesian passport. The question is did he use that passport upon entry into the US in 1968 or 1969 or 1970? If he was a US citizen during those years and traveled to the US - and we know he did - remember the 3rd grade 1969 picture - he would have to present a US passport upon entry. US citizens MUST declare themselves as such when entering the US. But if he traveled on an Indonesian passport and presented an Indonesian passport upon entry to the US - that is a problem.

So the question is very simple - what passport did Obama when entering the US between 1968 and 1971? The answer to this simple question would either confirm or put to rest most of this entertaining speculation.


85 posted on 12/12/2012 7:57:39 PM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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