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To: Seizethecarp
In fact, as I posted upthread, if you look at her sworn statement, sworn in the presence of a US official, Stanley Ann actually affirms that any person in her filing, including Barry, has NOT lost his US citizenship. If he had, she would have had to strike out that term by drawing a line through it before she signed, but she did not. She also would have had to have referenced and included an explanatory statement, such as Barry was adopted and now has an Indonesian passport,which she did not. Her removal of Barry from her personal passport, Barry would have had to have been a US citizen to have been on her passport in the first place! Therefore under the 1967 Rusk SCOTUS decision, no re-nationalization for Barry would ever be needed unless he personally took action after age 18 resulting in loss of US citizenship. US law regarding citizenship and nationality and NBC status is not governed by Indonesian citizenship or adoption law outside treaties.

Not true. The instructions you are talking about apply to person to be included. in the renewed passport. Persons to be excluded from the renewed passport are indicated in the Amend (Exclude) Section.

Stanley Ann wrote the name of the individual previously included on the old passport in the Section to Amend (Exclude) the individual from being on the renewed passport. Furthermore, Stanley Ann struck Obama's name after enclosing the name in parenthesis to indicate this person would be excluded because he had naturalized in a foreign state. If the State Department would provide a complete copy of Stanley Ann's passport records, then we would see a supplementary explanation as to why she struck Obama's name out on her renewed passport.

The Soetoro adoption had not been finalized when Stanley Ann included Obama on her old passport. Consequently, his legal name was Barack Hussein Obama. After the Soetoro adoption was finalized, his legal name became Barry Soetoro. If Stanley Ann had intended to merely indicate a legal name change on the renewed passport, then she would have written the amendment with parenthesis in the AMEND (EXCLUDE) Section. Clearly, Stanley Ann was excluding Obama from her U.S. Passport because he is now Indonesian.

134 posted on 12/13/2012 12:58:21 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: SvenMagnussen
...Clearly, Stanley Ann was excluding Obama from her U.S. Passport because he is now Indonesian.

And as an Indonesian, he cannot remain on her passport, so he arrives in Hawaii with an Indonesian passport in the name of Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah and it's no wonder immigration didn't hand him over to the Dunhams! Stanley Ann's married name was SOETORO. If the name on the passport was Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah, there was really nothing to connect him to Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro or Lolo Soetoro.

Another can of worms opens.

Immigration may have said to the Dunhams, come back when you can show me how this Indonesian national is related to you, and why we should allow him to remain in the US.

141 posted on 12/13/2012 2:23:51 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SvenMagnussen
“Stanley Ann wrote the name of the individual previously included on the old passport in the Section to Amend (Exclude) the individual from being on the renewed passport.”

I don’t see Stanley Ann having done anything different than what she would have done if Barry was being excluded merely for now having his own separate passport.

As usual you have provided no evidence for all of your adoption speculation. The INS FIOA docs on Soetoro affirm that Barry was his stepson ONLY and NOT adopted.

145 posted on 12/13/2012 4:14:51 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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