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To: Talisker

You have a problem with cause and effect.

The insurrection attempted by the slave power was put down. The insurrection was attempted by the slave power, to further and extend the institution of slavery. The emancipation proclamation was developed to hinder the war making power of the insurrectionists.

The 14th Amendment was developed to correct the error of the Taney court in the Dred Scott case. It, with the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments corrected the error of the Dred Scott court.

It is amusing to watch people attempt to defend the Taney court. Life slavery was first instituted by colonial courts at the request of a slave owner of African heritage. North Carolina in particular permitted persons of African heritage to vote until 1835. Taney’s false legal doctrines were finally corrects.


22 posted on 10/31/2012 10:50:32 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

The Republican Party platform of 1860 was revolutionary in denying the Supreme Court’s authority, not just disagreeing with the decision. Secession was counterrevolution.

A responsible party could have challenged the Dred Scott decision in many political ways, but the party of Lincoln chose confrontation. Just as today’s left wants it all in one bite, disaster followed when they got what they wanted.

What’s the definition of a communist: a liberal in a hurry.


28 posted on 10/31/2012 11:07:45 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: donmeaker; Talisker

“It will probably be asked, Why not retain and incorporate the blacks into the State [instead of colonizing them]? Deep rooted prejudices entertained by the whites, ten thousand recollections by the blacks of the injuries they have sustained, new provocations, the real distinctions which nature has made, and many other circumstances will divide us into parties and produce convulsions which will probably never end but in the extermination of the one or the other race.” —Thomas Jefferson:

Was he right or wrong?


29 posted on 10/31/2012 11:33:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered ...)
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To: donmeaker
You have a problem with cause and effect.

The insurrection attempted by the slave power was put down. The insurrection was attempted by the slave power, to further and extend the institution of slavery. The emancipation proclamation was developed to hinder the war making power of the insurrectionists.

The 14th Amendment was developed to correct the error of the Taney court in the Dred Scott case. It, with the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments corrected the error of the Dred Scott court.

It is amusing to watch people attempt to defend the Taney court. Life slavery was first instituted by colonial courts at the request of a slave owner of African heritage. North Carolina in particular permitted persons of African heritage to vote until 1835. Taney’s false legal doctrines were finally corrects.

Slick, but tedious. It's you who have inverted cause and effect. Any reference to Dred Scott was merely part of the cover story to push the 14th, and the supportive 13th and 15th. You're trying to explain an ocean by citing a need for a water faucet - it's ludicrous.

I would say your understanding of law is virtually nonexistent, except you took care to try to cover your inversion of facts by accusing me of your own strategy - typical lawyer trick. Therefore what you are doing is deliberate, and you also understand you must base your argument upon misinformation and psychological tricks. So much for ethics, eh? Let alone truth.

30 posted on 10/31/2012 11:42:32 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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