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The business of an Ambassador is communications. Communications is one of the things that is absolutely essential when you are in a defensive situation. No one is reporting what the defenders sent or what they asked for.
1 posted on 10/26/2012 5:17:55 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
As with the original 911 Atrocities, Obama was celebrating.

“Mission Accomplished!”



2 posted on 10/26/2012 5:23:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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OBAMA WENT TO BED
Matt Bracken 10-25-2012

The biggest stench from the Benghazi fiasco is that it is beginning to smell like Obama went “nighty-night” to rest up for Las Vegas, instead of manning up in the Situation Room and seeing the crisis through and (had he only been awake) ordering a rescue mission.

In Benghazi, after 6-8 hours enduring a few “Fort Apaches,” with running street battles in ...between, (like a mini Blackhawk Down), the living Americans must have been thinking, “Any minute now, here come the helicopters! Just hang on!”

But they didn’t. So even though Delta had forward staged to Sigonella Sicily (rumint) from base in Germany, nobody was willing or able to pull the trigger and send a rescue force. Or even a few F-18 supersonic flybys, to bust windows and warn, “Here comes American airpower, and you camel jockeys know what that means.” Just as a morale booster it would have helped the besieged staffers.

But it was never sent, not even a lousy supersonic low-level flyby. One hour from bases in Italy, max.

Here is the deal. The military automatically does a lot on its own, under standing orders and SOPs. The minute they see that the consulate is under attack, and the ambassador and others are in a “safe room” hiding, it becomes TOP priority. Every other mission aborts or slaves over to support any possible rescue.

At that moment when the critical incident alarm messages start ringing, military steps happen on autopilot in real time. Everybody in the Navy and USAF chain of command swings into a crisis contingency plan mode. What ships are closest? Helicopters? Marines? Delta is in Germany? Get them moving right now. Where is closest? Sigonella, for now. It’s NATO, no permission needed, just fly.

En route in C-17s, the D-boys would even be prepping for an immediate action rescue mission, that is, the C-17s will fly directly to some desert road outside of Benghazi, and here comes “The Raid On Entebbe,” done in crisis mode, canned actions, but they would do it. They practice for these exact scenarios, and leave gear staged for them.

They would coordinate with fighters out of Italy, mid-air-refueling platforms start shifting, it’s a huge show that swings into action for thousands of miles around Behghazi. The ongoing consulate attack is JOB ONE, the only job. VIPs will be tossed off of planes at remote runways if they need that platform.

Or Marines on amphibious ships in the central Med, (if any were available), would also be put on the real-time options board. We used to have a “Amphibious Ready Group” of about 3-5 USN gator freighters, including a helo carrier like a Tarawa class. They carry an entire battalion of USMC, plus SEALs etc, with helos and Ospreys to carry them all. (But not at once.) Where was our ARG? Does our Navy have enough ships for that mission any more?

But while all of that military staging would have happened/did happen during the 6-8 hour battle at the consulate and annex, what the military cannot do on their own say-so is cross an international border without an order from the NCA, the National Command Authority, and that means POTUS, Obama.

Only POTUS can authorize a cross-border hostile mission. That is, guns clear, no official permission from the Tripoli govt (if it really exists outside State Dept fantasies.)

Only one man can pull that trigger and say, “GO!” Obama.

(But for America to act “unilaterally” would have meant the bogus Libyan Arab Spring and so-called new Libyan Unity Govt. that we were propping up didn’t really exist. Libyan sovereignty must be held sacrosanct, even the false image of one, where in reality, Al Queda is top dog in Libya. Even when an Al Queda offshoot is your external “security,” namely, “The 17th of February Martyrs Brigade.” IOW, the White House thought they had a “deal” with AQ in Behghazi, since we were helping to run weaponry from Libya to their pals in Syria. So there was an “institutional bias” at State against crossing the border on a rescue operation sin permisso.)

Anyway, be that as it may, no General or Admiral will order the Marines ashore, or a Delta raid or even an F-18 or F-16 low-level supersonic flyby. They can not and will not cross a border without a clear-cut order from POTUS via the NCA. Not even Hillary can make that decision. Only Obama.

But no order came, as of midnight in DC. And then none would come. Because the POTUS retired for the night with a “do not disturb” sign on his door, punted, and went to bed, to be well rested for Las Vegas.

While his ambassador was off the U.S. radar, missing, at that moment possibly being dragged down a Benghazi street or even raped. But that is when Obama went to bed. Midnight in DC is 0600 in Beghazi.

That is the greatest scandal of Benghazi. The POTUS slept through it, while all around the world, military forces were poised for the Raid on Entebbe or any other damn thing the POTUS ordered them to do. (And the were raring to go, believe me.)

But the POTUS said, “We’ll discuss it further in the morning,” and then he went to bed around midnight in DC, 0600 in Benghazi, with a missing ambassador and a full-blown crisis in full mega flap.

He punted. He went to bed.

God help us.
I think that’s the big secret they are keeping. The President went to bed, with his lost Ambassador being dragged through streets.

Obama went to bed.


3 posted on 10/26/2012 5:24:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

You would need John Edward (not Edwards) to get communication from Stevens.

He was cowering in the back room. But that is what diplomats do.


4 posted on 10/26/2012 5:37:25 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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To: marktwain
Where are the Communications from Ambassador Stevens During the Attack?

Probably in the same place 0bama's REAL BC is.

9 posted on 10/26/2012 5:45:37 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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To: marktwain
Listen to this:

Direct link to interview:

http://d24edc7kaf4agn.cloudfront.net/3650/rhiDownloadVariant/10-12-col-hunt.mp3?rhihttphost=audio.wrko.com

Col. David Hunt explains how at least 12 command centers got near INSTANTANEOUS info when the Benghazi consulate was attacked, including a manned WH situation room. Hundreds of government personnel listened/watched for 6 hours in real time as the attack ensued. Hunt says it is standard operating procedure when an embassy is attacked.

WH gave no military order to intervene.

They knew almost immediately that there was NO protest, NO mob-— just a surgical jihad operation viewed instantaneously in real time by governmental operations centers all over the world, including CIA, Dept of State and WH situation room, for over 6 hours.

In short, everyone knew, almost immediately, what happened in Benghazi was an act of war.

11 posted on 10/26/2012 5:48:46 AM PDT by randita
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I believe the communications were all going to the CIA, who was also operating that drone

I believe it is plausible the DoD was not privy to this paramilitary adventure and therefore unable to respond with any timely military backup

the CIA guys running this operation would have been talking to someone in the WH when the SHFT, someone who has not yet been named or questioned. Someone who sees his primary job as protecting obama

Yes Stevens had a cell phone but whether it worked in his “safe room”, or whether he was unrestrained enough to use it, is tbd.

An open source report which probably has disappeared indicated that a Libyan national at the hospital where Stevens’ battered body was deposited, the next day (over 7 hours after the attack) “found” his cell phone and started dialing numbers until someone answered

That is how the USG found the Ambassador's body

Very interesting time line if it is ever revealed ..maybe in Harvey Weinstein’s next movie (sarc)

15 posted on 10/26/2012 5:58:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: marktwain; Travis McGee

Good question; good post. BTTT!

The brave patriots in the situation room room were doing everything in their power to get the film-maker, the real culprit in this “bump in the road”. Right Hillary?

TREASON...in real time...right now...ongoing.


18 posted on 10/26/2012 6:02:38 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: marktwain

Sad thing is our fighting men had to die trying to protect this administrations dumb ass policies
Why anybody joined the military under Obama is beyond me


25 posted on 10/26/2012 6:30:06 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: marktwain

Has anyone reported what the WH or State Dept send back as a response to the pleas for help? Did they know they were on their own? Where they lead to believe help was on the way?


26 posted on 10/26/2012 6:32:20 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: marktwain

I imagine that information is highly classified and they are trying to keep it under wraps as long as possible. We wouldn’t want the whole truth to come out before the election. Hopefully some more whistleblowers will come forward.


33 posted on 10/26/2012 6:47:34 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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It is unfathomable that we did not have intelligence there and that we did not send in extra intel once we saw a situation brewing. “We didn’t know” is not an answer. “Hope he calls back” is not an answer. It is derelition of duty. Suppose your wife called up and told you in scraps of a frantic, broken phone message that she was being attacked? Would you just shrug and say "Hope she calls back. Hope she makes it through okay"? No! you would get yourself and every damned policeman and able-bodied friend out to save her before it was too late.
35 posted on 10/26/2012 6:49:32 AM PDT by Puddleglum (President Romney)
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To: marktwain

More importantly, WHO were the communications directed to and WHO made the final decision to do nothing? Someone in the chain of command with authority was making these final decisions and they are being protected.


38 posted on 10/26/2012 7:00:13 AM PDT by Toespi
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October 26, 2012 - Glenn Beck: New Explosive Benghazi Allegations: CIA Operators Told to ‘Stand Down’ During Attack & 3 Urgent Requests for Military Back-Up Were Denied
54 posted on 10/26/2012 10:31:16 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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