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Correcting Obama's Debate Comments on the United States Navy
Ward World ^ | 10/23/2012 | Ward World

Posted on 10/22/2012 9:41:46 PM PDT by kevinaw2

Earlier this evening in the Third Presidential Debate Mitt Romney raised legitimate concerns about the current and shrinking size of the United States Navy. The President responded snarkily by saying that size does not matter because we have these these "things" called Carriers that "planes can land on" and these "things" that go underwater.

This pathetic attempt at rebuttal by Obama is quite simple. The first submarine commissioned by the United States Navy was "USS Holland (SS-1)" on October 12, 1900.




The first Aircraft Carrier commissioned by the United States Navy was the USS Langley (CV-1) on March 20, 1922. 



Exactly how does the existence of Aircraft Carriers and submarines in a Modern American Navy nullify Mitt Romney's  just concerns about the size of the Navy? Obama spoke about both as if they were some new fangled advances in naval warfare. The existence of carriers in our fleet justifies its reduction even though they have been an integral part of our navy for 112 and 87 years respectively? I guess in Obama's world Jimmy Doolittle was bombing Tokyo with ELECTRONIC b-25 Mitchell bombers. How can he defend shrinking a navy whose history he is wholly ignorant?




TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; debate; navy; obama; romney
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Corb Lund Horse Soldier.
21 posted on 10/22/2012 10:30:51 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: kevinaw2

The President said that it’s a matter of capabilities. Which is why the new QDR (Quadrennial Defense Review) indicates that we need the capability to fight the last war we’ve been in. Of course, that’s what every QDR has said, every one of which has been wrong. For example, this QDR downplays the need for tanks. Didn’t need them in Afghanistan (the last war), so we won’t need them in the next war. What we’ll need is to fight an asymmetric threat, which means bad guys using terrorist tactics. So, we need more special operations personnel, civil affairs, drones, and so forth. Hopefully, the time the enemy will finally read our QDR and figure out what they’re supposed to do. Romney described the QDR as dialing down our defense capability from 2 (or rather 1 and 1/2 wars) to 1 war, when the QDR is actually for dialing down our defense from 2 wars to fighting asymmetric threats, transnational terrorist organizations and rogue nations. As to whether we will have the overwhelming force needed to deter any adventurism by North Korea, Iran or Venezuela is not really clear. Here’s what I say: the military and intelligence communities needs to give the President options so as to be able to deal with a wide range of contingencies, including unanticipated contingencies, without committing the country to actual war, and while leaving intact sufficient force to fulfill our far-flung commitments.


22 posted on 10/22/2012 10:36:38 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: fella

Pretty cool. Thanks.


23 posted on 10/22/2012 10:49:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Get the transcript Candy! - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: TigerClaws

Yeah, I’m talking to my friend, an O worshiper, and I had to ask her to temper her glee about tonight.

She wanted to know why.

“Because, you’ve always been able to recognize when a go won’t hunt no more and I hate to see you standing on the deck, ankle deep in water and continue to play with the band”.

You’ve lost Florida a week ago, North Carolina yesterday and likely Virginia tonight.

Nevada is shifting and Ohio looks like it wants to be done with it as well and Pennsylvania could be a breakout surprise.

Tomorrow night we’ll have a party, at my home, with some dam bright people. One or two from the Hoover Institute.

They will be sure to speak upland I have fingers for both sides waiting. I think two on my side will have pretty intelligent observations and my friends on the other side will be pretty vapid as to why they are supporting Barry O


24 posted on 10/22/2012 10:54:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

That ‘vapid’ state is why I believe little barry bastard commie will pull a military maneuver before the election, so the ‘undecided’ (those are the truly vaid ones) will swallow the ‘shouldn’t change horses in the middle of battle’ crap.


25 posted on 10/22/2012 10:57:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Vendome

That ‘vapid’ state is why I believe little barry bastard commie will pull a military maneuver before the election, so the ‘undecided’ (those are the truly vapid ones) will swallow the ‘shouldn’t change horses in the middle of battle’ crap.


26 posted on 10/22/2012 10:57:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

They are morons and should be fitted with rfid tags so we can find them when they lose their as with their hands...


27 posted on 10/22/2012 11:14:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MHGinTN

They are morons and should be fitted with rfid tags so we can find them when they lose their “ass” with their hands...

See? I did it too...dang it...


28 posted on 10/22/2012 11:15:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: WhiskeyX

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29 posted on 10/22/2012 11:37:32 PM PDT by cyn
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To: WhiskeyX
It goes even further than that. There is safely in numbers. The USS COLE was what almost two days away from another US Navy ship that could render assistance. yemen had ben a hot spot for years. Better yet once upon a time COLE would have fueled at sea. The larger ships such as Amphibs or used to the old conventional carriers could fuel a ship at sea if a USNS oiler wasn't available.

We're taking some serious chances in this M.E. environment taking so many ships through the ditch. For 14 years 1967-81 all carriers stayed out of the Suez Canal. When we did start taking Super carriers through the SUEZ in 1981 we had 521 ships plus a two carrier group presence in the MED SEA 24/7/365. We had equal capabilities for WEST PAC. We had a lot more support for all ships concerned.

30 posted on 10/23/2012 2:26:49 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Cole was sent to refuel at Yemen because the State Department needed the Navy to show the flag. Due to SD’s normal incompetence, they failed to pass on to the ship several indicators that the local franchise of AQ was more active.

That is above and beyond the problem of having too few logistics force ships.


31 posted on 10/23/2012 5:10:47 AM PDT by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: maine-iac7

Those Special Forces on horses were the first sign that we were gonna kick some ass over there. That was a good day.


32 posted on 10/23/2012 5:13:51 AM PDT by McGruff (SNARKY is the keyword for today.)
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To: WhiskeyX

Obama also said we have these ships that go underwater now. The ignorant fool disregarded how nuclear powered submarines are more than fifty years or a half-century old now, and conventional submarines are now more than a century old. Obama was also too ignorant as a Commander-in-Chief to respect the tradition of submarines being referred to as “boats” and not as “ships” which go underwater.

In military and naval matters, Obama demonstrates how he is simply a willfully ignorant fool. Every veteran should bring his foolishness and incompetence in such affairs to the attention of their families, friends, and neighbors before the election.


This vet will do that. Appreciate your comments

Reflecting on all of this it becomes clear that O can talk like he is knowledgeable but when it comes to game time he shows how small he is.

Debating him is like trying to have Charles Manson admit that he is a murderer.


33 posted on 10/23/2012 6:57:43 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Pecos
Cole was sent to refuel at Yemen because the State Department needed the Navy to show the flag. Due to SD’s normal incompetence, they failed to pass on to the ship several indicators that the local franchise of AQ was more active. That is above and beyond the problem of having too few logistics force ships.

Yea I remember they sat n the message. One former Freeper named Sneakypete said it best years ago. Foreign Intel needs to be taken out of the SD and put under the sole supervision and coordination of the Pentagon. A good number of the Boo Boo's terrorist have been able to accomplish were because Intel was either ignored, not passed along to other need to knows, or the threat was not seen in diplomatic sense but was a clear threat military wise. State Department needs an enema and it's functions greatly reduced.

34 posted on 10/23/2012 4:40:54 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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