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To: fireman15

I don’t know if I believe this story. It sounds a little too perfect.

I just don’t believe that some random Kenyans said “you know Obama was born in Keyna.” How would they know that?

Anyway, no offense, but this sounds a little bit too convenient.


19 posted on 10/01/2012 12:21:33 PM PDT by HG47
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To: HG47
My wife volunteers at the Museum of Flight on Boeing Field in Seattle, they get visitors from all over the world almost every day of the year. The people had very dark complexions, they had accents, and they appeared to be sincere. They told my wife that “everyone” in Kenya knows Obama was born there. The knowledge of these Kenyans might be based on Obama’s own claims, claims from his relatives in Kenya or just local folklore from people who might like to have a deeper connection to the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

I have never been able to figure out why Stanley Ann would want to have her baby in Kenya. But the undisputed fact of the matter is that Obama is most likely the one who started making these claims through his agent or publisher and Obama let these claims stand unchallenged for sixteen years.

His “long form” is an obvious forgery. No one is able to document Stanley Ann's loction in the months before Obama was born up until she showed up in Seattle with a newborn baby. It is very difficult to believe that she wouldn't have bragged to her friends about giving birth to baby Obama in a third world country. It seems like that would have been a very interesting story to tell.

Nothing about Obama’s birth narrative adds up. There is certainly nothing “perfect” about “random Kenyans” saying that “everyone” in Kenya knows Obama was born there. It doesn't make any sense. But it doesn't make any sense that he is passing off a poorly forged document as his “long form” birth certificate either.

No one has been able to get to the bottom of why Obama claimed up until shortly before his effort to become president he claimed to have been born in Kenya. Surely as a “constitutional scholar” with supposed long time presidential aspirations he would have known that this claim might cause difficulties for him at some point.

I don't blame you for being skeptical... but my wife did meet people who claimed to be Kenyans who claimed “everyone” in Kenya knows Obama was born there. I have no way of knowing if these people were truly Kenyans or if even a minority of people in Kenya “know” that Obama was born there. That is what these people told my wife. I thought it was relevant to the discussion which is why I posted.

29 posted on 10/01/2012 3:16:58 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: HG47

I was in the ME the day before his election, and spoke with a 20-something Kenyan man. He informed me that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and that tomorrow was a big day, because a Kenyan was going to be President. True story.


30 posted on 10/01/2012 4:19:42 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: HG47

While on a plane, returning from Africa in 2006, Obama stated:

Lynn Sweet The scoop from Washington
Obama: Africa lessons; look ahead. En route back to U.S
Excerpt:
Obama’s next big international journey will be in 2007—he’s looking at China, India and Indonesia, ``where ironically I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.’’

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/09/obama_africa_lessons_look_ahea.html

Screen capture:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/Political%202/Chicago_Sun_Times_2006_Obama_admits_Childhood_in_Kenya.jpg

James Orengo Kenyan Minister of Lands, (Dept of Interior) Kenya — Obama born here.

March 25, 2010 — Kenya National Assembly Official Report, Page 31 During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, he told parliament:

http://i39.tinypic.com/29w5lkk.jpg

“If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation,” Orengo posited, “how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the president of America?”

KENYAN BORN OBAMA ALL SET FOR SENATE former article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan-born Senator...”
http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA
As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama…(13th headline down)
http://www.africa-ata.org/ug_newsletter.htm

More than 50 schools in Kisumu, Kenya, about 30 miles from where Obama was born…
http://s870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/?action=view&current=Obama_Born_Kenya_Plan_UK.jpg

NPR …STORIES OUT OF AFRICA:
http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/images/kenyan-born-npr-page.jpg

THE CITIZEN:
We witnessed last year a senator with his origins from east Africa, Barack Abdallah Husein Obama, becoming the first black US president……..
http://thecitizen.co.tz/magazines/32-political-platform/2708-zanzibar-could-reverse-trend-to-have-president-from-pemba.html

THE NIGERIAN OBSERVER:
http://oilforimmigration.org/images/screencapt3.jpg

THE GHANAIAN TIMES:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/Go_Obama_Ghanaian_Times2.jpg?t=1255731958

NEWSPAGE WEEKLY:
http://s870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/?action=view&current=ArticlesObamaKenyaBorn2.jpg

Kenyan born U.S. Senator “exploring ways” of helping home province:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/BBC_NEWS_Kenyan_Born_Obama.jpg?t=1259875484

The Nov. 5, 2008, Kenya Parliament Official Report,

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9606845/Kenyan-National-Assembly-Wednesday-5th-November-2008-51108A

excerpts from the Kenyan Parliament from Nov. 5, 2008, on the morning after Barack Obama win of the US Presidential election on Tues, Nov. 4:

“Adjournment so that we could also continue
the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the
USA? I humbly request!”

“...so that we can set up a committee to organize
for his homecoming.”

“...the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil
of this country.”

Kenyan Ambassador admits Obama born in Kenya

Excerpt -—
Radio Host:
One more quick question, president elect Obama’s birthplace over in Kenya is that going to be a national spot to go visit where he was born?

Kenyan Ambassador:
It is already an attraction. His paternal grandmother is still alive.

Radio Host:
But his birth place, they will put up a marker there?

Kenyan Ambassador:
It will depend on the government. It is already well known.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14


31 posted on 10/01/2012 6:10:12 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: HG47

I just don’t believe that some random Kenyans said “you know Obama was born in Keyna.” How would they know that?

I think it may be common knowledge in Kenya and much talked about as many are probably proud of the fact. This couple seems to have the good sense to recognize that Obama is nothing to be proud of. If you were to encounter a couple from Kenya and engaged them in conversation don’t you think the conversation would likely turn to Obama? If it were me, it wouldn’t take long.


45 posted on 10/02/2012 6:50:17 AM PDT by Josephat
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