Posted on 09/27/2012 10:28:51 AM PDT by diamond6
A conversation between my husband and a FReeper who wants to sit out the election because he doesn't like Romney:
"See, I believe that we are already past the tipping point.
You really are naive. Nothing worse can happen, huh?
How about those hefty taxes that are planned for the rich (really small businesses) in January? Think that might possibly cause our economy to get even worse by increasing the jobless?
How about the $1 trillion dollar debt (conservatively estimated) for the next fiscal years budget and every years budget thereafter?
How about the disregard and attacking of the rights of all religious institutions, who will be forced to pay for something they believe is morally wrong? Do you think quite possibly Catholic hospitals and facilities might possibly go out of business?
How about the actual implementation of Obama Care, which will devalue our way of life, drive doctors out of the business, bankrupt insurance companies, and cause skyrocketing premiums?
How about the complete collapse of our economy, which will likely result in unprecented skyrocketing inflation rates and quite possibly a depression that we have never ever seen the likes of?
What about the complete disregard of any and all pro-life protections - babies, the elderly (euthanasia - they wont be needed anymore?
How about the removal of any moral values for our country at all?
How about World War III in the Middle East, the annihiliation of Israel, and a nuclear holocaust there as well, with the fear of dirty bombs in this country?
How about the removal of all our rights - free speech, freedom of religion, right to bear arms through Obama executive order fiats?
How about the replacement of our conservative judges with ultra liberal anti-Constitutionalists?
How about a Communistic-style of government that will lead us to the point of no return?
Your no vote is a vote for Communism. Congratulations on your principled approach. And youre doing that to teach the party a lesson? There wont be a 2016 election to turn to, after Obama gets done.
You and others like you have no genuine concern or accountability for our country at all.
They do not care..they are right and everyone else is wrong.
Obama could rape every American in full view for all to see, and they would still claim it wouldnt be any better with Romney in there.
The motto they go by is, “We want it our way, and we want it NOW!”
Hear! Hear!
AGREED
How about non-Obama Americans going in extermination camps?
Oh, he’s planning to join the Obama crew at that point.
yep
Everyone who stays home, votes third party or write-in is helping to keep the Marxist/Muslim usurper in office.
When they said “past the tipping point”, I think you misunderstood them. I’m sure they didn’t mean nothing worse could happen, simply that we may be past the point of no return in terms of righting our country and restoring a constitutional republic through the ballot box. So, if that is true, then electing Romney may be pragmatically better but it does not address the issue of fixing our country’s deeper problems. In fact, it could be counterproductive, since a pragmatically worse situation could lead to a quicker demise of the corrupted system, allowing a quicker restoration.
I haven’t voted since 2005. But I have decided to start voting in local races and issues only.
You said, “ In fact, it could be counterproductive, since a pragmatically worse situation could lead to a quicker demise of the corrupted system, allowing a quicker restoration.”
But after 4 more years of the Obamination, no restoration would even be possible. THAT is why THIS election is so critical. Something might be done now but four years from now.....
this election is about voting to do good, not voting to feel good.
Sitting out this election because you are not happy with Romney, is like not supportiing FDR and Churchill in WW2 because Stalin was their ally.
You are proceeding from an incorrect premise. I will vote in this election and support as many CONSERVATIVES I can find on the ballot. I will not vote for EITHER socialist.
Ya haf to unnerstand the Dems see politics as a broken-bottle, knife and gun, bar-room brawl...in other words war for survival...
In the words of one helluva an American
As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.
Donald Rumsfeld
On the battlefield...nobody is standing around quoting ideology.
I may not agree much with Romney ....but unlike Obama, he DOES have the executive skills and experience to get the job done. We can only hope and pray he knows what to do with the Bamster.
I sure do wish itd been Palin , however..
Dear Leader Obama thanks you for your vote!
And the GOP-e by forcing a socialist as the parties nomination is doing their part to keep the Marxist in office. They are the ones who made this election either fast socialism via Obama or slow socialism via Romney.
This crap again???
We’re not buying the stupid accusation and threat.
We’re voting staunch Conservative PERIOD. Nothing anyone tries to bully us into is going to get us to change our minds.
Plus - ANYONE who thinks this election is somehow going to be fair, open and honest is delusional. Understand the history of Marxists once they achieve the level of power Obama and his MarxoFascists have.
At NO TIME in history, has an election caused a Marxist regime to leave power. At NO TIME in history, has an election under a Marxist regime ever been ‘won’ by the challenger.
Everything you are seeing and hearing, is to create an illusion of legitimacy to Obama being crowned for another ‘term’.
Better be thinking past November.
"You really are naive. Nothing worse can happen, huh?"
You really are arrogant and blind to the dangers that Romney presents.
"How about those hefty taxes that are planned for the rich (really small businesses) in January? Think that might possibly cause our economy to get even worse by increasing the jobless?"
Even Obama has called for a 1 year extension of the Bush Tax breaks. Neither candidate has a decent economic plan. And Romney's push to open yet more third world economies means more American jobs exported.
"How about the $1 trillion dollar debt (conservatively estimated) for the next fiscal years budget and every years budget thereafter?"
The right way to fix the economy is to get our people working again, but neither candidate has a clue on how to do this. They need to raise import tariffs and put American's back to work. Besides, all spending bills orginate in the House. It's hard to blame Obama for something that a Republican Congress doesn't have the spine to tackle. Obama's plan is do nothing or hire government workers. Romney's plan is to outsource more jobs overseas. Obama actually scores higher.
"How about the disregard and attacking of the rights of all religious institutions, who will be forced to pay for something they believe is morally wrong? Do you think quite possibly Catholic hospitals and facilities might possibly go out of business?'
Yes that's bad. But is Romney any better. His Romneycare did the same thing to Catholic Hospitals in Mass.
How about the actual implementation of Obama Care, which will devalue our way of life, drive doctors out of the business, bankrupt insurance companies, and cause skyrocketing premiums?
As opposed to Romneycare? Have you been listening to Romney? He's already taken most of the key provisions of Obamacare off the table. Romney's "Repeal and replace" amounts to rebranding the program with Romney's name. Changing the tax penalty to a tax credit (virtually the same, but one sounds better). And offering a huge federal incentive so that states will have no choice but to choose" to implement Romneycare instead of being forced to implement Obamacare by law.
"How about the complete collapse of our economy, which will likely result in unprecented skyrocketing inflation rates and quite possibly a depression that we have never ever seen the likes of?"
Since neither candidate has a plan, both seem quite capable of accomplishing this. Romney's plan of cutting safety nets for the poor before the structural issues in the economy are addressed is going crash the economy as well as result in a popular revolt against conservatism that will likely doom our cause for 20 to 30 years.
"What about the complete disregard of any and all pro-life protections - babies, the elderly (euthanasia - they wont be needed anymore?"
Read WorldNetDaily's article about Romney being a weathervane on abortion. He points whatever way the political winds are blowing. If you are thinking Romney is the one to lead us out of the abortion quaqmire, think again.
"How about the removal of any moral values for our country at all?"
So we should vote Romney? The guy who appointed homosexual activists to the bench in Mass? The guy who told the Boy Scouts they should allow gays in leadership positions? The guy who says one thing in campaign speeches and then does another. The guy who's campaign managers openly talks about "etch-a-sketching" campaign positions?
"How about World War III in the Middle East, the annihiliation of Israel, and a nuclear holocaust there as well, with the fear of dirty bombs in this country?:"
Last time I checked, Obama was still bombing terrorists. Well at least when he's not leaving our embassies unsecured. Romney does score a little higher than Obama on middle east. But then Israel is in the hands of God. Romney's pro-Israel stance is offset by his own belief in a cult religion that has twisted Christianity until it's not recognizable.
"How about the removal of all our rights - free speech, freedom of religion, right to bear arms through Obama executive order fiats?"
Are there no checks and balances? Romney's commitment to democratic fair play was in full evidence in the convention. As well as in Mass when he overrode the legislature and single handedly implemented gay marriage.
How about the replacement of our conservative judges with ultra liberal anti-Constitutionalists?"
Seriously? Do you know what Romney's record was in Mass? Read the WND article "Liberals running wild" on Romney's judicial appointment record.
"How about a Communistic-style of government that will lead us to the point of no return?"
What about hyperbole? Have you read the WND article written by a Mormon Bishop's daughter that talks about the Mormon plan to take over the government?
"Your no vote is a vote for Communism. Congratulations on your principled approach. And youre doing that to teach the party a lesson? There wont be a 2016 election to turn to, after Obama gets done."
Your vote for a GOP liberal will guarantee at least 8 more years of the same liberalism. You're the one voting for someone that doesn't share your conservative values. Not us.
"You and others like you have no genuine concern or accountability for our country at all."
We're very concerned. We just don't see how voting for a GOP labeled liberal is going to help steer the country away from liberalism. And we don't buy the sky is falling last chance for America scare tactics either.
And we don't really appreciate you're impuning motives or character traits to us. That's a liberal tactic.
Talk about proceeding from an incorrect premise, Herr Obama thanks you for your vote too!
Just curious; Do y’all reward your child for shoplifting, because “hey, at least he didn’t shoot the storekeeper, like the neighbor boy did”?
Because that has been the lesson that the GOP has been taught for too long.
Instead of rewarding bad behavior, placing all your hope in weak vessels. I’d say prepare yourselves and your loved ones for the coming crash.
Because it doesn’t matter if Thelma is driving the car at 100 MPH, Or Louise is driving it at 80 MPH, the car IS going off the cliff.
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