[Irenic]

grundle, are you Dan? If so..how in the sam hill did you keep from slamming your phone on the receiver over and over with all the--that's your opinion, that's in your opinion, that's an opinion. I got frustrated just reading! I think I would have broken my phone!

[econjack]

I won’t go into details, but I used to argue with a Sociology prof I taught with all the time about such things. You’d try to have a reasoned debate with her, you’d get her boxed in where she had nowhere to go but agree with you, and she’d say: “That may be so, but I don’t believe it.” and she’d leave. I may as well have been arguing with a fence post.

[grundle]

Yes, I’m Dan. I love debating politics. I’m always happy to talk to political callers - of any political affiliation.