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'They Are A Bureaucratic Machine That Got Out of Control' - Teachers bolt from union
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 9/16/2012 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 09/18/2012 9:08:11 AM PDT by MichCapCon

Excessive spending on salaries and politics are among the reasons teachers in the Roscommon Area Public Schools severed ties with the Michigan Education Association, said Jim Perialas, interim president of the new teachers' union.

The MEA’s executive salaries, which are among the highest in the country, had angered the teachers, he said.

Perialas said a newly formed local union could provide the same basic services that the MEA provided and for less than half the cost. Perialas said his teachers were facing a dues increase from the MEA this year that would have increased their annual payments from $850 to $960. He said the new independent union will keep dues at about $800 a year for four years so they can build up some reserves, but then the plan is to drop dues to $400.

"We are the customer," Perialas said of the teachers frustrations with the MEA. "They got too greedy. They are a bureaucratic machine that got out of control."

Teachers in the Roscommon Education Association voted Monday 42-22 to decertify from the MEA. The new union will be called the Roscommon Teachers Association.

"We are not anti-union, we are anti-MEA," said Perialas, who served as the chief negotiator for the Roscommon Education Association. "We left the MEA because we sent them a check for $70,000 and we didn't feel we were getting $70,000 a year in services."

MEA executive salaries also were an issue, he said.

"It was huge for us," he said. "We hated it."

In 2011, former MEA President Iris Salters made $235,447, a cut in pay from her 2010 salary of $280,598. Steven Cook, who took over as MEA president when Salters left, made $196,594 in 2011 as the MEA's vice president.

"This is the sales pitch they give teachers: 'For an organization of 157,000 people, our pay is not out of whack,' " Perialas said. "Our response is: 'You have an organization of about 200 people and your revenue stream is 157,000 teachers. You don’t run an organization of 157,000 people.' "

The average teacher in the Roscommon district, which is along I-75 south of Grayling, earned $62,312 in 2010-11, according to the Michigan Department of Education.

"It's stuff like that is out of touch," Perialas said.

John Ellsworth, the former president of the Grand Ledge teachers union, said he was "happy and impressed" Roscommon teachers were taking control of their destiny.

"I hope other districts do consider it," Ellsworth said.

However, Ellsworth said he thought few would follow Roscommon’s lead.

"Teachers do have much to fear in recent legislation and continued attacks, and the MEA makes sure they know it," Ellsworth said.

He said most teachers are focused on the classroom.

"I think most teachers go with the flow, and they do not see much benefit in changing or leaving the MEA," Ellsworth said. "In my view, for a district to leave the MEA, a few trusted teacher leaders have to push for it. And it is rare that local union leaders view the MEA critically. I think the culture and attitude of the MEA, its trainings and its employees, is that of a bunker mentality: it is us versus them. By creating that bunker mentality, critical thinkers who challenge the MEA become the enemy, even if those folks are trying to improve the MEA."


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: michigan; schools

1 posted on 09/18/2012 9:08:19 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: Springman; Sioux-san; 70th Division; JPG; PGalt; DuncanWaring; taildragger; epluribus_2
It ain't perfect but an independent union is a better choice for all.

If anyone wants to be added to the Michigan Cap Con ping list, let me know.
2 posted on 09/18/2012 9:13:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon
Unions are a MONEY LAUNDERING OPERATION!

Taxpayer dollars >> Teachers >> Unions >> Democrat politicians

3 posted on 09/18/2012 9:17:34 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: MichCapCon

Money quote/point: ‘You have an organization of about 200 people and your revenue stream is 157,000 teachers. You don’t run an organization of 157,000 people.’

Now if only all unions would get that message handed to them.


4 posted on 09/18/2012 9:18:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: MichCapCon

Too little, too late. The MEA is going to descend upon them like a pack of wolves for this. Expect much political and union retribution in the near future.


5 posted on 09/18/2012 9:21:19 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

I was in an independent union for a while. The UAW and AFL-CIO took turns picketing us. LOL


6 posted on 09/18/2012 9:24:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: MichCapCon

They just got themselves a 960 dollar a year raise.

THAT IS a big raise.


7 posted on 09/18/2012 9:28:16 AM PDT by crz
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To: cripplecreek

Same happened to us and it got ugly. Some of them got hurt though.

Often wondered what happened to those fellows from MN.


8 posted on 09/18/2012 9:30:59 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz

We never had any problems but the picketers had a very limited public space to use and two armed guards at the gate. We also parked around the backside of the building in a big courtyard type of space.

They didn’t have anything to offer that was worth the restrictions that would be placed on us by the company if we accepted a troublemaking big union. We didn’t make as much but we had good PHP insurance, a good working relationship with the company and most important, each employee was an individual and could work out extra sick time or other time off with the company. We did have scale pay which I hated.


9 posted on 09/18/2012 9:41:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, the big players don’t like the competition. I had to join the IBEW to work at my current job. If I had a choice, I would have opted out of having to pay a hundred bucks a month to a bunch of !@#$%^&*(). But when you work in a closed shop state, there’s no real alternative.


10 posted on 09/18/2012 9:41:50 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
Right to work is coming to Michigan at some point. There are even a growing number of union people calling for it. Terry Bowman is the leader of the Union conservatives and he's a pro union guy but slams the union perfectly.

Collective bargaining steals away distinctiveness and strips workers of basic human dignity because it essentially tells workers that they are no better or worse than anyone else.

In other words, it is Marxist in nature, which is anti-American.


Commentary: Labor Bosses' Vision of Collective Bargaining Hurts Workers, Society Union plans will force Michigan to have to hang 'Closed for Business' signs

http://www.unionconservatives.com/


11 posted on 09/18/2012 9:51:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

After we got rid of the AFL-CIO we actually got more pay. We got a profit sharing plan in place as a result and we made as much as 500 bucks a month in bonuses and over 2 grand at the end of the year. Of course, the corporation hated it but since the plan included managers and all, they went along. A portion of the bonus plan would go to benefits and still we got good payouts.

The place ran so smooth it was unreal. Funny thing was that some of the slackers became good workers-the rest left.


12 posted on 09/18/2012 9:54:37 AM PDT by crz
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To: MichCapCon

Well, I doubt they’d turn down a 16% raise and strike.

lol


13 posted on 09/18/2012 9:58:04 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: MichCapCon

I am glad they are beginning to “get it”, but forming a new union will not solve the systematic problem, just restart the clock.


14 posted on 09/18/2012 10:02:08 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: cripplecreek

Right to work may well come to Michigan, but it will be too little, too late. Too many skilled and technical people have left the state, including myself. I grew up during the rise and fall of the auto industry, and had to suffer through it. It was either feast or famine, no in between. Michigan, along with all of the other rust belt states, have turned their backs to industry, and now they’re paying for it.


15 posted on 09/18/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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