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To: MileHi; All
Vattel is not at all controlling.

Blackstone had FAR more influence on the founders than the Frenchman, Vattel.

There are COUNTLESS cases that support my side of the argument.

Those that your side presents are NOT controlling, and you do not understand legal opinions if you think otherwise.

Yes, a person born of two US Parents on American Soil IS a NBC, however, that is NOT the only way to become an NBC!

NONE of your legal sources show otherwise.

This is why NO LIVING LEGAL AUTHORITY IS ON YOUR SIDE!

NONE

You have lost this argument.

It has been lost for all time.

This fight is OVER!

Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at Birth and nothing else.

23 posted on 09/14/2012 6:56:01 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
This fight is OVER!

LoL The truth is never OVER!!

From the 1874 Foreign Relations Committee from above.

"A child born within the United States, of parents who are not citizens, and who do not reside within the United States...shall NOT be regarded as citizens thereof."

The operative phrases from above are in bold.

Wow, they mean that the US government didn't believe that someone could be born within the United States could not be a US citizen?

Heck, then there is no way that person could ever be a natural born citizen LoL.

28 posted on 09/14/2012 7:10:00 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Kansas58

You would have as much success telling Egyptian islamic fanatics that Mo wasn’t a prophet. True birthers live in their own universe. No state, court or lawyer can enter their world. In their world, the earth revolves around Vattel, and more specifically, the 1797 mistranslation of Vattel.


49 posted on 09/14/2012 7:51:39 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Kansas58

This is why his college application records are of so much interest. Did he apply as a citizen of the US, or as a citizen of Indonesia? The latter would amount to a de facto denunciation of his U.S. citizenship.

I don’t think it would amount to a hill of beans as far as ejecting him from the Presidency, but it would be extremely politically damaging.


106 posted on 09/15/2012 5:52:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kansas58
Blackstone had FAR more influence on the founders than the Frenchman, Vattel.

He was SWISS you stupid f****** moron! He wrote in French because that was the language of Diplomacy.

There are COUNTLESS cases that support my side of the argument.

I only know of one. Ankeny v Daniels, and it was a recently decided case, ruled on by an ignorant idiot and is an abomination, much like your argument. Judges that actually knew what they were doing don't agree with you at all.

This is why NO LIVING LEGAL AUTHORITY IS ON YOUR SIDE!

Maybe not, but all the dead ones do, and they are the only ones that count. Modern people are just ignorant, and unwilling to learn how ignorant they are.

127 posted on 09/15/2012 11:35:28 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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