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To: scripter

There’s a 100% chance that if you go back and actually bother to read what I posted, you’ll discover I said the researchers found that there was no structural difference in the hypothalamus between men who are straight and men who identify as homosexual.

What they found were differences with men who self-identified as women, which has absolutely nothing to do with sexual attractions but tends to support the long-held idea that transgenders are males with estrogen-induced brain damage.


17 posted on 09/14/2012 8:03:35 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny ("Insulting" Islam is as impossible as casting aspersions on a pile of dog crap.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Here's what I originally said:
There is still no scientific evidence to support the born that way theory. None. On the other hand, there is plenty of scientific evidence the environment in which we are raised is key. Even scientists with an attraction to the same sex do not believe they will ever find evidence homosexuals are born that way. Of course, you won't hear that from the media. You have to actually read the scientific studies.
Then you replied with:
Actually, there’s a study from a few years ago that involved brain dissection. There’s a bundle of nerves that runs around the hypothalamus which is much smaller in females than in males.

The researchers found that men who identified as transgender had the smaller “female” sized bundle but men who identified as gay had the normal male size.

Your "Actually" implies what I said wasn't correct when what I said was 100% correct. There is still no scientific evidence homosexuals are born that way.

And if the study to which you refer is from Simon Levay, even he doesn't believe his study supports the born that way theory. Here is what Levay said regarding his hypothalamus study: I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are 'born that way,' the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work."

If you're not referring to Levay's study, to what study are you referring?

18 posted on 09/14/2012 9:44:53 AM PDT by scripter
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