When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence

Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | September 4, 2012 | Matt Bracken

[buffaloguy]

I think it will be extremely quiet.

Not enough rabblerousing going on at this time and I think everyone is just tired of the dreck coming out of DC.

[SampleMan]

The EBT cards will never go blank, because no money actually needs to be in the account to give them a balance. Also, it would point blame and anger at the government.

However, after a cycle or two of not being paid, or being paid pennies on the dollar, retailers will cease accepting them.

[RepRivFarm]

Travis,

Love your books, and you paint a scary picture in the article above. I have moved away from the big cities for this reason.

Query: In the event of flash mobs and riots, why wouldn’t the government simply shut down cell phone service? Easy-peasy.....no more flash mobs.

[hkusp40]

What if a cascading economic crisis, even a temporary one, leads to millions of EBT (electronic benefit transfer) cards flashing nothing but zeroes? Or if the government’s refusal to reimburse them causes supermarket chains to stop accepting them for payment? interesting trigger for the scenario, however in all liklihood an economic downturn would not cause EBT's to come-up zero, in fact - as we already know, economic crisis' have increased the access and government dilligence toward establishing more people using EBT's. It is when a condition out of the government's control causes not just EBT's but debit and credit cards to come-up zero. That would be an EMP. The author makes a point that the riots were usually spawned from social unrest rather than economic stress. Working in Manhatten during 9/11 and the second black-out, there was little chaos present in a potential powder keg situation. I don't see the liklihood of any governemnt abruptly killing the EBT or other welfare transfer program in such a manner based on economic crisis. They'll just print more money to accomodate the additional welfare recipients. I would suggest to monitor France with it's 75% tax rate, millionaire's and investment taxes and a pledge by the French socialists not to reduce spending. It is when the last of the wealthy businesses and individuals slip away in the middle of the night that the riots will begin.

[rellimpank]

—bflr—

[Dead Corpse]

“May” explode? I will be shocked if they don’t. Especially if Zero loses...

[deweyfrank]

bttt

[Eye of Unk]

I would also like to add that many states are now stockpiling emergency food supplies, and there is obviously many that can view food as a more important issue before guns, so these flash mobs will center attacks upon places that will be storing food, especially food stocks that are more portable, shipping hijacking will be more common.

Even bulk food containers may be hijacked, or held for ransom.

First rule of preparedness, keep the circle of informed small, if neccessary create an image of being in need, try to not stand out as having stocked resources.

I actually plan on saving most food containers and refilling them with material to duplicate weight and feel, especially boxed foods. Create a fake food larder.

As far as the cameras at intersection for facial recognition all it takes is a green laser on a small compact tripod aimed and turned on either manually or by being pre-placed and operated by remote control.

Or disabling them by other means, paintballs? Tinted film on the upper windshield and upper drivers window to conceal facial recognition, the more adoptive use of wearing a hat obviously helps.

[Loud Mime]

When the welfare and EBT funds end, I’m sure we’ll see violence, flash mobs and open prostitution of the worst kind. We won’t have enough prison space to hold all the perps, so the police will have to be selective on who they will detain.

History has already provided lessons on what happens to Democracies. We know what is coming. Prepare yourself and your home.

[reasonisfaith]

I think it’s important to remember things don’t happen in real life like they do in the movies.

[PLMerite]

Ditto

[SampleMan]

The EBT cards will never go blank, because no money actually needs to be in the account to give them a balance. Also, it would point blame and anger at the government.

However, after a cycle or two of not being paid, or being paid pennies on the dollar, retailers will cease accepting them.

Interestingly, this is almost precisely the same scenario that I have been envisioning.

Also, I know very, very few shooters/hunters that only own one rifle. This country has millions of armories.

[reasonisfaith]

Hollywood movies completely ignore the influence of God. But the Spirit of God lives in us.

This is why the real world, and the way real people behave, is so different from the behavior of characters in movies about disaster and apocalypse.

[DuncanWaring]

...rapid fire, about one aimed shot per two seconds.

In case anyone thinks this is unrealistic, in 1914 a musketry instructor in the British Army — Sergeant Instructor Snoxall placed 38 rounds into a 12-inch-wide target at 300 yards in one minute.

That's faster than one shot every two seconds, with iron sights and a bolt-action rifle.

[Yashcheritsiy]

self-ping

[Citizen Tom Paine]

Most likely, martial law will be declared and roads blockaded with checkpoints. So no one will be able to go anywere witout a pass (or a bribe). The Federal Government operating at its usual level of efficiency will really muck things up. There will be arbitrary seizure of property, etc.

[Yashcheritsiy]

We won’t have enough prison space to hold all the perps

By this point, detaining them in prison will not be the way to deal with them.

[PetroniusMaximus]

PING

[Louis Foxwell]

So precisely what bureaucratic or political misfire will result in cutting off food stamps? The article is too long, too suppositional, too theoretical and too paranoid to bear any semblance to reality.
Slaves do not revolt. They demand the return of their meagre sustenance. The public dole requires subservience as the first step to receiving benefits. The Democrat party has been clear about this since slavery. They continue to act on the same set of premises: maintain poverty among enslaved classes by denying benefits to recipients who seek to be self supporting.
Inner city ghettos exist by design and intent. Government programs sustain and perpetuate poverty ridden ghettos. They are the backbone of the democrat party. As a political tool the racism perpetuated by the democrat party is profoundly successful and profoundly immoral.
There may be flash mobs but only so long as government and the media look the other way. Gang bangers are not freedom fighters. They are criminal punks who do what they can get away with. There is no sense in which ghetto riots are a rising up of an indignant people seeking the dignity of taking care of their families and communities. It they were they would have risen up when welfare started.
This essay is largely bunk, a scare tactic screed from the right based on a superficial understanding of the political realities of poverty.
The ghetto will end overnight when government stops enforcing its existence.

[PapaBear3625]

Eventually, high concrete “Peace Walls” like those in Belfast, Northern Ireland, will be installed where the different ethnic groups live in close proximity. That is, if recovery to sane and civilized norms of behavior are ever regained in our lifetimes and we don’t slide into a new Dark Age, a stern and permanent tyranny, warlordism, anarchy, or any other dire outcome.

One thing you may not be taking into account: the urban underclass is economically unproductive. They DO NOT have the skills that would enable them to earn an income that would allow them to feed and house themselves in a free market economy. They can only survive (at what they consider a minimal economic level) by looting the middle class, either directly through crime, or indirectly through government benefits.

For the last few decades, the middle-class has been buying peace through the use of welfare. When they see that peace can no longer be bought, there is no further incentive to pay for something that is not being delivered.

So what happens when the middle class, while it is still a voting majority, decides to end the looting?