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To: jmaroneps37
No Democrat has won the presidency since 1948 without winning the Catholic vote. Obama is not even close.

And their are many of them in PA, OH, MI, WI, & MN ergo why they are in "play"... It is the same demographic that gave Schumer and Emanuel the House and Senate in 06' IMHO and I wish I still had the map I found on-line to prove it, it has been gone for eons..... Turn about is fair play Schadenfreude Baby..

5 posted on 08/27/2012 7:19:53 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

“And their are many of them in PA, OH, MI, WI, & MN ergo why they are in “play”...

Obama lost the 2008 Catholic vote in Pa, Ohio, and Mn. The Catholic vote varied between 70% for Obama in NM to 70% against Obama in La. Of course this is all exit polling so who the heck knows anyhow.

I’m not sure Obama won the Catholic vote in any red state, I would love to know that (not saying he didn’t win either, I just don’t know). The whole 54% thing is a national number to my understanding, which isn’t as useful because we vote by state and the electoral college. In huge states like NY and Cali Obama won the Catholic vote handily, both by 59%. I don’t know what it was in Texas, which is another big one and a red state. But in a few fairly blue states like NJ (55%) McLame won. It seems like region has something to do with it as well as maybe the bishop.

I can’t see that Obama has helped his cause much with Catholics over the 2008 numbers, but who knows.

Freegards


13 posted on 08/27/2012 7:47:21 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: taildragger

While there are a lot of Catholics in the rust belt, and Obama thumbing his nose at them doesn’t help him, the main reason the Rust Belt is in play is simple, Obama has basically spit in the faces of the Blue Dog democrats for 4 years, and they are without question the largest group of democrats in the rust belt.

They are not leftist ideologues, they aren’t socialists, they aren’t supporters of having others pay for abortions etc. They are rather conservative folks who vote democrat because of generations ties of democrats to Unions. Obamas completely removal of the mask of what the democrats stand for economically and socially is why the Rust Belt is in play.


18 posted on 08/27/2012 8:12:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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