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Empire State Building Shooting Is Proof that Gun Control Doesn't Work
The Red Side of Life Conservative Musings from New York ^ | 8/24/12 | RedInNewYork

Posted on 08/24/2012 8:11:29 AM PDT by jmstein7

The shootings around the Empire State Building today are further proof that gun control simply doesn't work - except to keep guns out of the hands of those who might want to legally defend themselves.


New York City is a de facto "Gun Free Zone." Thus, by liberal logic, there should be zero gun crime. How, then, is it possible that firearms account for about 60% of all murders in New York? By liberal logic, murderers in New York aren't able to own guns. See how absurd the logic of the gun grabbers is?

The fact is, no matter how strict gun laws are, a person who wants to commit a crime with a gun will find a way to get a gun - just like a person who wants drugs that are 100% illegal will find a way to get said drugs. Gun laws don't stop gun crimes. All gun laws do is stop people from defending themselves. But ONE person with a CCW could have shot the shooter in NYC the second he opened fire.

What if the shooter had been in a subway car? What would have stopped him from killing every single defenseless person therein? NYC can't possibly put a cop in every subway car. How about a bus? An office building? This only serves to emphasis the need for the government to back off and give millions of potential and defenseless victims the means of self-defense in such situations.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not advocating for a wild-west scenario. I don't want to put guns in the hands of just any idiot - there has to be at least a minimum knowledge and respect of firearms through education. But I do think that anyone who has taken, say, an NRA-approved course on how to use and respect firearms should be issued a CC permit. That is, after they have been taught how to shoot, when to shoot, when NOT to shoot, etc.

In fact, I would mandate such education in public schools - certainly personal self defense is more important than handing out condoms.
Bottom line - where do you think a person is more likely to commit a crime - in a "gun free zone," or in a location where everyone is potentially armed and educated? Exactly.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; guncontrol; gunfreezone
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To: GOYAKLA
,”gun was 45 caliber semi-automatic which carries eight magazines”.

after misreading the text....she then wondered ‘I wonder if it carries the New Yorker’

21 posted on 08/24/2012 9:05:22 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: CaptainK

CNN reports: Police who killed the gunman may have hit several of the eight people wounded, Mayor Michael Bloomberg says.

Perhaps the anti-2nd Amendment Mayor should train his Police Officers better!

Remember, perpetrators fear a well armed Citizenry.


22 posted on 08/24/2012 9:07:48 AM PDT by BobNative
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To: Vaquero

Touche’
Great “ketch”! :^}


23 posted on 08/24/2012 9:22:38 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Kelly identified the gunman as Jeffrey Johnson, 53, who was laid off as a designer of women's accessories from Hazan Imports last year after working there for six years.
As soon as they find out this designer of women's accessories shot his ex boyfriend we'll hear no more about it.
24 posted on 08/24/2012 9:23:19 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: jmstein7

WARNING TO AMERICANS FROM AUSTRALIA

Watch what happens when Guns are banned in Australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RDWltHxRc&feature=youtu.be


25 posted on 08/24/2012 9:42:23 AM PDT by txgirl4Bush (2012 can't come soon enough!)
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To: CaptainK

Wonderful, so I expect the lawsuits will start flying in oh about 3 seconds. Rock and a hard place, let the lunatic shoot up the public or take him down along with some people. This was during rush hour where 34th street is packed with commuters and cops aren’t going to wait while he’s picking people off.


26 posted on 08/24/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: jmstein7

New York needs a strong anti-gun mayor like Bloomberg so this never happens. Ugh, wait...


27 posted on 08/24/2012 5:23:24 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: School of Rational Thought

Impotent politicians. If they outlawed all guns people would use knives, if they outlawed knives people would use bats, if they .........and on and on. dolts on parade


28 posted on 08/24/2012 6:15:07 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (BB)
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