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Most likely this is the article, written by a doctor, where Todd Akin got his information. So the entire country is about to crucify a man because he read an article from a medical professional and made a reference to it in an interview. Nice.
1 posted on 08/22/2012 3:08:43 PM PDT by JediJones
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The title of the thread should be “Rape Pregnancies Are Rare”. Please correct it if you can, mods.


2 posted on 08/22/2012 3:09:44 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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All very nice, doesn’t matter. Akin lost all the “feelings” voters with this statement. He’d have had to parse like a lawyer to not do so.


3 posted on 08/22/2012 3:19:14 PM PDT by steve8714
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Just let this go and it will be forgotten in a few days. Most of the dust up seems to come from the Right. If Hannity would shut the hell up about it, it would be a blip. But, no. He’s gotta get ratings and so he repeats himself over and over about this non issue.

This will not affect republicans nationally and I still suspect that come November, Missourians will be far more p.o.’ed by the dismal economy and vote McCaskill out.


5 posted on 08/22/2012 3:30:40 PM PDT by Jake8898
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32,000 pregnancies as a result of rape per year do not constitute...”rare”.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 3:30:53 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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From 1999. Interesting.


7 posted on 08/22/2012 3:32:17 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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SO.... more people are killed in Detroit in a year, than children born from rape ?

This whole controversy extends from the pretended offense by the MSM and Politicians over the word ‘legitimate’, which implied that women would lie about rape.

This is why the ‘reaction’ from the left. They cannot acknowledge ‘facts’ when it comes to dealing with the lies they are so used to telling.

I’m not dumping on the women. God knows men lie all the time. Men and women lie differently, and about different things. These are facts.

The ‘fertility’ of the female womb is an issue when it comes to unwanted pregnancy. In this case, just like abortion, the woman makes the decision. Her body responds.

Again, these are facts. Medical History. As I say, this is a ‘pretended’ offense, meant to hide the truth, which is that opponents to McCaskill are just pawns being thrown away.

The only MISTAKE Akin made was in assuming that the ‘public’ was intelligent enough to avoid being led around by the nose with such a simple and easily verifiable reference, and something that most women experience intimately.


8 posted on 08/22/2012 3:35:10 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (RED NECK KUNG FU by Corn Fuschas)
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Yes, this is the article Akin was referring to.

IT HAS BEEN DEBUNKED. Its conclusions have been proven incorrect, as reported in a host of places; nobody, including its author, defends it as legitimate.

9 posted on 08/22/2012 3:36:58 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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Akin should have been astute enough not to have mentioned this in a public forum knowing that the media would spin his words against him.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 3:38:02 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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“Rape Pregnancies Are Rare”

True or not; this is one of the dumber things to be talking about before an election. It is a gift wrapped present for Dems to use against an opponent.

It fits and reinforces their whole “war on woman” thingy perfectly.

12 posted on 08/22/2012 3:43:18 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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So the entire country is about to crucify a man because he read an article from a medical professional and made a reference to it in an interview. Nice.

No. We're about to "crucify" him because he didn't cite any article and because he is so tin-eared that he didn't realize how insensitive he sounded.

A politician can respectfully promote a no-exception policy for abortion by stressing the child's right to live. Minimizing the risks of pregnancy to the raped woman is just knee-slapping dumb.

We've got enough dumb in D.C..

20 posted on 08/22/2012 3:55:38 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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Kind of a silly article.

Assumes all rapes are reported, and then uses not particularly logical reasoning to whittle down the numbers more.

OTOH, the 30,000 number for annual rape pregnancies commonly reported is also likely to be seriously flawed.

For it to be accurate, a women must be twice as likely to get pregnant from rape as from an act of consensual intercourse. This seems unlikely. It also requires that 8x as many rapes occur as are reported, which also seems high. Which means these numbers are probably cooked to some extent.

It is almost certain the real number is somewhere between 225 (or 370) and 30,000. We’ll probably never have solid numbers on such a politically charged issue.


21 posted on 08/22/2012 3:55:56 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Focus people. The proper question is:

Is the best treatment for a rape the murder of a baby?


29 posted on 08/22/2012 4:30:18 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1311 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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Want to know the real reason why rape pregnancy is rare?
Because many women use birth control. And those that don’t get treated with post coital contraception. That’s why.


30 posted on 08/22/2012 4:32:03 PM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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Even if rare, I would still allow women who have been raped to abort. Of course if I had my way, the rapists would be castrated, emasculated, and executed too.


32 posted on 08/22/2012 4:34:06 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Even though it has happened many times throughout history, I'm sure that Dr. Willke, and Mr. Atkin are familiar with Germany after Ivan's sweep through there in 1945.

If not, ask the doctors, and women what happened 9 months and less after the Russians.

5.56mm

45 posted on 08/22/2012 5:03:44 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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This was already posted.


74 posted on 08/23/2012 7:52:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Pregnancies resulting from rape are no different than pregnancies resulting from consensual sex. It either happens or it doesn’t.


75 posted on 08/23/2012 7:54:51 PM PDT by hitchwolf
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While many of the good doctor's considerations are valid, this is failed analysis for its overlapping segments and unlikely fully-paired distributions. For example, the fraction of men and women who are sterile is far higher as they get older, when they are less likely either to commit forcible rape or be raped respectively, yet he reduces the total population without qualification and does so with successive cuts rather in parallel as they should be (IOW his is terribly flawed analytical method).

Whether or no, Akin was so stupid to fall into this obvious trap that he is unqualified to be a Senator if only because of the political damage he would do. Even his apology didn't address how the baby should not be punished for the crime of the rapist. By his comments, their flaky bases, and his lack of political common sense, he has set the pro-life movement back ten years. For that, you should be as PO'd with him as anyone.

Yet even if he does quit, given the GOP-e, our biggest resulting problem (in addition to the obvious consequences in the polls) is that if Akin should drop out, it will be very difficult to replace him with a conservative candidate and not a RINO. Were he truly so committed to principle as he claims, this is where he could and should make restitution, demanding that he will not relent unless his replacement is an appropriately conservative candidate. I don't see any possibility of that kind of commitment from him, which makes him an breast-beating fraud, and not a moral conservative.

80 posted on 08/23/2012 8:44:33 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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Not as rare as the survival rate of suicidal gunshots to the head.


84 posted on 08/24/2012 12:24:14 AM PDT by soycd
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