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1 posted on 08/03/2012 7:19:13 AM PDT by C19fan
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Admins PLEASE fix the link, I would like to read the entire article.


2 posted on 08/03/2012 7:26:08 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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WW1: The gift that keeps on giving the world headaches.

The most powerful and important nations in the west decided to waste their people in a useless fight based on some stupid bravado, misplaced nationalism, and silly treaties. Leaving nothing but a festering wound that turned into an even worse conflict that finally broke the back of the west and put us in the awful spot we are in today.

And why the U.S. decided to get roped in will never make sense to me.


3 posted on 08/03/2012 7:28:34 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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At sundown on Aug 3, 1914, Edward Gray, British Foreign Secretary at the time, is said to have remarked “The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our time”.

The next morning, Germany invaded Belgium on their way to France.

Gray was right; Europe never recovered from the Great War.


8 posted on 08/03/2012 7:34:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Do you think more people are wanting to learn more about WW I and it’s causes or it is just History “Nuts” like us? Have you visited the National WW I Museum in KC, MO yet?


13 posted on 08/03/2012 7:50:28 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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From the introduction to Unintended Consequences by John Ross:

"History has shown us that government leaders often ignore the fundamental fact that people demand both dignity and freedom. Because of this disregard, these decision-makers then initiate acts that are ultimately self-destructive. To illustrate this point I will remind the reader of the origin of two of modern history's most destructive events, and of all the warning flags that were frantically waving while the instigators rushed headlong towards the abyss.

In the late 19th and very early 20th centuries, European leaders formed two major alliances. Germany, Austria, and Italy comprised one coalition, and Britain, France, and Russia the other. Belgium remained neutral per an 1839 treaty signed by all of these nations except Italy. The smaller European countries became indirectly involved in the two aforementioned alliances. One such example was Serbia, a country Russia had pledged to aid in the event of war between Serbia and Austria. Despite Russia's presence, Austria annexed a large part of Serbia, a province called Bosnia, in 1908.

Few people remain emotionally indifferent when their culture and country are taken over by an aggressor, and the Bosnian Serbs were no exception. Many Bosnians despised the government that had chilled their independence. In spite of this obvious fact, the Austrian leaders sent an archduke to the capital of Bosnia to survey the people Austria now ruled. This archduke was resplendent in full military ceremonial dress, festooned with medals and other military decorations, and accompanied by his elegantly-dressed wife. An objective observer might at this point have said, "Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea."

Archduke Ferdinand and his wife arrived in Sarajevo in an open vehicle, and the only protection either of them had was their chauffeur. This man was expected to drive the car and at the same time protect the Archduke and his wife with only a six-shot revolver he carried in an enclosed holster, and no spare ammunition. Our theoretical observer might here have said, "This is a recipe for disaster."

Almost as soon as the Archduke and his wife arrived in Sarajevo, a Serbian National tossed a bomb under their car. Its fuse was defective and the bomb did not explode. Here, our observer might have advised, "A miracle happened. Go home. Now. Immediately."

Despite this obvious wake-up call, the Royal Couple shrugged off the assassination attempt and continued their tour of the Bosnian capital. Later that same day, a second Serbian National shot them with his .32, killing them both. The Austrian leaders blamed the Serbian government for the assassination and demanded a virtual protectorate over Serbia, issuing Serbia a list of demands. Serbia acceded to all but one of Austria's stipulations. Here, our observer might have said to Austria's leaders, "Russia has pledged to aid Serbia in any war with you, and Russia has both powerful allies and powerful adversaries. Serbia has agreed to almost everything you demanded. Settle, and avoid a world war." Instead, Austria shelled Serbia's capital with artillery fire.

Our observer might here have told Russia's leaders, "Serbia is not worth starting a world war over," but Russia honored its commitment to Serbia and mobilized its army, sending troops to the Russian-Austrian border. Since this left Russia vulnerable to attack from Austria's ally Germany, the Russian Army mobilized against Germany as well.

This forced the German Army to mobilize. Since France was allied with Russia, the Germans feared an attack by France in the west while German troops went east. So Germany decided to invade France immediately, VIA Belgium. Here, our observer might have said, "Saying this is your 'destiny' is not going to be good enough, Germany. When you invade a neutral country and rape their women and slaughter their livestock and bum their houses, Britain is not going to just look the other way."

When the Germans invaded Belgium, Britain honored its commitment to defend Belgian neutrality, and declared war on Germany. Every major country in Europe was now at war.

Four years later, over thirty million people were dead, half of them killed directly in the war itself, and the rest so weakened through shortage of food and medicines that they succumbed to the influenza epidemic. In addition to the lives lost, the war's monetary cost in 1918 was almost three hundred billion dollars.

No sooner had the war ended than the victors demanded their pound of flesh at the Treaty of Versailles. The treaty required Germany to accept sole responsibility for causing the war. It dictated that German military leaders were to be tried as war criminals. It prohibited the German army from possessing heavy artillery. It abolished the General Staff and the German air force, and prohibited Germany from producing military aircraft. As in 1914, our observer might have said, "Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea." But if such words were in fact uttered, they fell on deaf ears. A humiliated Germany was ripe for the nationalist message of Adolf Hitler, and in this fertile soil were planted the seeds of the Second World War."

31 posted on 08/03/2012 9:01:23 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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I think France deserves the most blame,

for things it did leading to WWI,

and Britain for things it did not do,

to stop itself from siding with France,

in what would have become, without Britain,

a brief repeat of the Franco-Prussian war,

and not a “world war”,

because it is that war,

WWI (its causes and its aftermath)

which hold a lot of responsibility for WWII,

in Europe.


37 posted on 08/03/2012 12:56:40 PM PDT by Wuli
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What Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party almost accomplished , the Euro will do to Europe.
All Hitler and the Nazi party had to do is wait 60 years for the collapse of the Euro and Germany could have exerted it's power all over Europe.
In a article from the paper called the The Trumpet, the rise of the 4th Reich is here are correct.
Germany with it's rising nationalism can take over all of Europe and can enslave millions with it's policies.
All they need now is the right leader.... the Anti-Christ ?
40 posted on 08/09/2012 10:01:05 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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What Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party almost accomplished , the Euro will do to Europe.
All Hitler and the Nazi party had to do is wait 60 years for the collapse of the Euro and Germany could have exerted it's power all over Europe.
In a article from the paper called the The Trumpet, the rise of the 4th Reich is here are correct.
Germany with it's rising nationalism can take over all of Europe and can enslave millions with it's policies.
All they need now is the right leader.... the Anti-Christ ?
41 posted on 08/09/2012 10:01:37 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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A famous quote " Nothing in politics is by accident, it's all planned " .....

Folks ? anything you see or hear in politics is not by accident, it was all planned well in advance, we are being played as a cheap second hand fiddle.
43 posted on 08/09/2012 11:03:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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