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To: Linda Frances
Just look at FR and think about how many conservatives are not voting for Romney; and we are political junkies.

So it is a repeat of last election?
If all those who caste mccain "no" or "protest" votes of one type or another had voted there would be NO OBAMA right now!
Many on our side can be so limited minded and short sighted... and the liberals are counting on it.
And the country as a whole will suffer for it--- AGAIN?
Just win ONE against Obama and the left and then hold the purity fight over the dems, unions, and criminals corpses when they have lost.
Sadly, our side played this very poorly again.

Can anyone think of what we should do NOW that we choaked again in a critical nomination process?
Does anyone think we will get another chance if we get obama as president for another term ...or two... or for (yikes) life?

Any bright ideas out there?
Step up now and present it before it is too late.
73 posted on 08/03/2012 12:03:38 AM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff

If all those who caste mccain "no" or "protest" votes of one type or another had voted there would be NO OBAMA right now!

Ugh ... Are you not up on current events? If the RINO McCain had been president, there would not have been a republican push-back in the Senate with regard to L.O.S.T. (aka The Sea Treaty). For sake of "party unity" the Republicans would have been told to get "their asses in line" for McCain, just like you are doing today for Romney's benefit. After telling us "But I’m just too concerned about the aspect of United States sovereignty being handed over to some international organization" with regard to the Sea Treaty, McCain turned redcoat on us and led the charge to vote for this sacrifice of our sovereignty and defensibility. That's the problem with these RINO's that those of us you call "limited minded and short sighted" can see that you cannot. You will never advance a conservative agenda by entrusting its implementation to a liberal. All you'll accomplish is destroying your brand and making future marketing that much more difficult.


84 posted on 08/03/2012 5:50:12 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: JSteff; All
Any bright ideas out there?
Step up now and present it before it is too late.


Good morning.

This is not the only place that I raised my concern about committed Christians who feel they are sinning by voting for Romney because of his pushing the gay agenda, abortion,...... I sent e-mails to some Christian orgs. that I trusted for many years asking what we are do do, because like me, many feel it is wrong to vote for someone who DID things that even Obama had not done before he was president. One org really surprised me and said outright we don't have any choices and was flip-that org is not one that spoke a lot about God, but was purely pro-life and clearly did not care what romney ever did. Others gave me the form letter that they can't tell people who to vote for. One place, the one that I trusted the most, had an assistant answer me in a very personal letter. I'm sure they knew they had to be very careful about endorsements or the opposite. They said they had heard from lots of people who raised similar concerns reminded me to trust God. They directed me to an arm of there org that deals a lot with these issues. It said when all choices are bad to skip that person, write in a name, but vote the rest of the ticket.

There are a lot of us who want what if right for our country and feel we got into this social downhill descent because people compromised (democrats years ago) what they believed and voted for the person with the “D” behind their name. The DNC seen that these people will do whatever they say, even if it's wrong; and that is why the left is like it is today. The RNC turned into the party who stood with God. They know they can't come right out and say we are not fighting the social fights anymore, so they needed someone who was willing to lie and convince people he was conservative, then cover for that person as much as they can. This is why conservative candidates were screaming about what Romney DID in MA. You also had the brave souls who issued a letter outlining all that romney did in MA and how he has gone back and forth on being pro-life/pro-gay marriage & adoption. Look at the names of some of these people who signed this letter:

Judge Ned Kirby (ret.), former Assistant Minority Leader, Massachusetts Senate
Atty. Edgar Kelley, former Assistant United States Attorney, Massachusetts District
Dr. William Greene, President, RightMarch.com
Dr. Ted Baehr, Chairman, Christian Film and Television Commission
Linda Harvey, President, Mission America*
Gary Glenn, President, American Family Association of Michigan*
Michael Heath, Executive Director, Christian Civic League of Maine*
Ray Neary, Director, Pro-Life Massachusetts (former President, Massachusetts Citizens for Life)
John O’Gorman, Member of the Board of Directors, Massachusetts Citizens for Life
Peter LaBarbera, Founder, Republicans For Family Values; President, Americans for Truth*
Diane Gramley, President, American Family Association of Pennsylvania
John Haskins, The Parents’ Rights Coalition
Gregg Jackson, Co-host, “Pundit Review,” author: “Conservative Comebacks to Liberal Lies,” contributor, TownHall.com,
William Cotter, President, Operation Rescue: Boston*
Brian Camenker, President, MassResistance
Mark Charalambous, Spokesman, CPF-Fatherhood Coalition, Massachusetts
Nedd Kareiva, President, Stop the ACLU Coalition
Phillip Magnan, President, Biblical Family Advocates
Rev. Earle Fox, D. Phil, (Oxford), President, Road to Emmaus, School of Judeo-Christian Apologetics (www.theroadtoemmaus.org)
Janet Folger, author, columnist, President, Faith2Action
Michael W. Calsetta, Former President, Conservative Democratic Alliance
Allyson Smith, Director, Americans for Truth-California*
JHaskins@ParentsRightsCoalition.org

There has been many godly leaders, during the primary, who tried to warn people and they were viciously attacked by the media on the right as well as right here on FR. Many people here defended this Romney (it was common knowledge that the mormon church sent people not only to polling places to work, but to all the blogs, to do their duty and get this man elected) We had those who said they were for a certain candidate other than Romney, but ONLY attacked conservative candidates. Never Romney. When it looked like Romney won they jumped on the band wagon so quickly your head spun. They spewed such hate at anyone who did not like romney, it was sad. A few of realized that they were for romney the whole time. I caught one them lying because I knew what this person was doing and cut and pasted some older comments they made and watched what they were saying on later comments. Of course many of these people disappeared from here after it looked like romney won. I should say they changed there names. Romney had been running for president so long, he knew what to do, and where to go to reach the conservatives. Problem was many are committed to God and not a political party. I guess he reasoned he sold out his beliefs for power and we would too. .

To answer your question, what do we do now. Many people have been praying for a miracle at the convention. At this point most conservatives will take anyone who is truly pro-life and will stop gay marriage and socialized medicine....... That is why I am not asking God for a certain person, but a man or women who has done what is right and will fight for what is right. I'm tired of telling God what to do. He knows what we need, and hopefully it's not punishment; although this nation deserves it.

In the mid 70’s there was a spiritual awakening that spread though this country and really hit the colleges. We saw what the sixties brought and people were turning to God in repentance. Those years of praying, repenting and turning to God did work. In 1980 we got a godly man: Ronald Reagan. Unfortunately, the left used marxist tactics to bring us abortion, free love, the beginning of the collapse of the family. The gays are doing the exact same thing the left did in the 70’s to get abortion. Intimidation, protest.....the same thing satan always has done. If you can't sweet talk them into sin, intimidate them. God help this country if we think Romney is our answer to the problem of Obama. I will not be online for a while as we had a death in the family. Next week.

87 posted on 08/03/2012 7:21:55 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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