[Natufian]

Your big problem is that I doubt you'll find one serious commentator who'll take up your challenge whilst Hawaii continues to officially verify that what Obama got from HI is exactly what Obama posted on the WH website. http://www.scribd.com/doc/96470103/Document-35-Et-Al

[Kenny Bunk]

Sorry Nat, check in with Sheriff Joe. The Hawaiians now REFUSE to say whether or not Barry's creation is what he got from them. In fact, they are on tape saying,"We gave him what we gave him, what he did with after that is not our business." Not only have they refused to verify the Obama release to Sheriff Joe, they have also refused to show it to AZ SoS Bennett.

Of course, they also refused to let Sheriff Joe's investigators SEE what they gave him. FYI, what they gave him was not a copy of a document. It was an abstract of digital files they claim to have in their records.

Barry's team took elements from these files and created what they claim is a copy of a document on file in HI. Of course it is no such thing.

If there were ever to be discovery ... a very big IF ... what they gave him and what he gave us could be compared side-by-side. They are refusing any cooperation. Please check a transcript of the latest from Sheriff Joe. Also notice that the letter says "Certificate of Live Birth" Not "Birth Certificate"

In brief, they simply refuse to show the d0ocuments to which they refer and have backed off claiming that Team Obama's document as presented on the WH website matches theirs. Sheriff Joe has the evidence ... and nowhere to take it. My point is that this is news. It does not require a commentator to take sides.

[DiogenesLamp]

The wording used to "authenticate" it indicates it is a fraud. Were it an exact copy, he would simply say "the image posted at Whitehouse.gov is an exact copy of the original document." All of those weasel words about the information contained therein matches the information in the record is proof of nothing.

Obviously the file contains whatever information is put into it, even if such information was put in at a later date.