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"Several sources show that Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton made a sudden visit to the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the British agency which oversees Public Records Archives from colonial protectorates, to speak with the Chief Executive of the Archives in early August of 2009. African news agency expressed surprise at Clintons arrival since she did not announce her intentions of stopping in Great Britain before embarking on her two week trip to Africa."

1 posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:31 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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He is The Usurper


131 posted on 07/20/2012 4:30:53 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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"Obama the elder neglected to name is newborn son on an application for extension of his temporary visa to stay in the U.S.

Obama’s omission of the birth is astonishing and illogical given the fact that the acknowledgement of the birth would have fortified Obama’s application for an extension. The INS has long been more willing to extend the visa of a foreign parent of children born in the U.S., especially when the other parent is an American citizen."

From some reason, this point has eluded me in the past but now it make sense. Since Obama was born in Kenya either Obama Sr. "literally hadn't gotten the memo" yet since Dunham was in Kenya-to-Seattle without him OR he realized that the child being born in Kenya made the child a Kenyan citizen not an American citizen. Mentioning the child would hurt him more than help him on his INS forms.

135 posted on 07/20/2012 9:50:57 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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Where does this link from 2011 come into the whole situation?

http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/

Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate

Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent
Published: 01/24/2011 at 8:48 PM


144 posted on 07/20/2012 1:34:12 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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Bookmark to file...


263 posted on 07/22/2012 1:18:00 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: LucyT; Brown Deer; melancholy; null and void; hoosiermama; Red Steel; Kenny Bunk; WhizCodger

ping...to significant update to the article at the top of the thread on 7/22 adding much more detail on the reference souce in text and also in a table (as best I can determine).

The new material is in a larger font, it appears...


300 posted on 07/23/2012 12:47:47 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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” - - - On August 31st, 1961, just weeks after Obama’s birth was allegedly registered in a regional office of the Hawaiian Health Department, Obama the elder neglected to name is newborn son on an application for extension of his temporary visa to stay in the U.S. “

Duh, because Barack Obama Senior KNEW that he wasn’t the “Baby-Daddy” to the child born to Stanley in a Kenya hospital. There are consequences for falsifying visa extension papers.


308 posted on 07/23/2012 8:39:54 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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If this issue bears fruit, then We the People have issue with Congress and the DNC for the consequences to the USA>


327 posted on 07/23/2012 2:10:43 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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later


341 posted on 07/23/2012 4:43:53 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: LucyT; melancholy; Brown Deer; hoosiermama; Red Steel; Kenny Bunk; circumbendibus; ...

PING ***MMAJOR ALERT***

The article at the top of the thread has been amended again to reveal a claim that the “Bomford BC” was actually a corrupted version of the true Kenyan BC for Barry that is in the BNA! The intent was to lure and then mock “birthers”

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/07/obamas-kenyan-birth-records-discovered.html

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Recall, on August 1, 2009, Dr. Alan Keyes, Pamela Barnett and 42 other plaintiffs filed evidence in a lawsuit challenging Obama eligibility which included a copy of an image of an alleged Kenyan Copy of Certification of Registration of Birth (CCRB). In the hours after the image appeared on the internet, MSNBC and other liberal mainstream, pro-Obama networks went ballistic attempting to debunk the idea that such a document exists.

The liberal media went out of its way to discredit the image, protesting too much, going as far as to claim that the Kenyan CCRB image was forged based on an Australian birth certificate which was miraculously discovered by an unnamed blogger for a man named Bomford.

On August 2, Keith Olbermann led the deranged effort on his now defunct “Countdown” show to lie and propagandize the CCRB using insults and baseless criticism of unknown “birthers” who he claimed “attempted and failed to pass off a forgery.”

Strangely, however, no one in the mainstream liberal media would address the question now answered by the recent discovery at the BNA. The Bomford document and the Kenyan CCRB would indeed appear the same under British birth registration processes and documentation formats because both municipalities in Kenya and Australia, in 1961, operated under the Registrar General of the British government.

It is now supported by the evidence discovered in the BNA that the Bomford document image from Australia was accessed and used by pro-Obama operatives as a template to alter the image of the Kenyan CCRB image in order to make it appear that “birthers” had created a bad counterfeit of a Kenyan birth record for Obama. This was done by Obama’s forgers to create “shell game” confusion among the public and misdirect media attention from the truth that an original, unaltered Kenyan CCRB, which was never allowed to be publicly seen in its original form before Obama’s forgers were able to access and change it, was actually an image of a legitimate document posted by unknown individuals who were known by Obama to possess the document before hand.

Essentially, the Bomford affair was just another coverup to hide Obama’s foreign birth records.

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507 posted on 07/24/2012 9:36:09 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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What does it matter, NOTHING will EVER be done about it. We are stuck with the Marxist b@#tard until he finally leaves office in January.

Between now and Jan. 21st or whatever day it will be, he will do more executive orders and allow all his Marxist cohorts do as much damage as possible, so much in fact it may take years to recover.

Hopefully, Romney is right now making a list of names to replace all Marxists on the Fed payroll.


1,053 posted on 07/29/2012 8:01:03 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: LucyT; melancholy; hoosiermama; Fractal Trader
ping to A new thread is up on an Ancestry.com (Mormon-linked) press release claiming that “genealogist certified” research shows that Barry was descended from “the first” VA slave and that “DNA analysis” was used to tie Barry to the slave's descendants on his MOTHER'S side.

Some of the documents detailing the lineage were obtained from the same British National Archive located at Kew, UK as are claimed to contain the vital index for the male baby born in Kenya to Barack Obama (Sr.) in 1961.

FR thread:

“Obama’s maternal ties to slavery”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2912395/posts

Ancestry Obama page:

http://www.ancestry.com/obama

From photo exhibits:

“1704 Quit Rent for John Bunch II”

Source: “Copy of the Rent-rolls of all the lands held of H. M. in the several Counties of Virginia. 1704. 62 large pp. double Columns,” The National Archives (Kew, England), CO (Colonial Office) 5/1314, no. 63 viii.

DNA links to Obama’s mom:

“Using colonial Virginia records and a DNA analysis, the researchers conclude that Obama definitely has African ties on his maternal side — and that Punch is the logical candidate.”

http://c.mfcreative.com/offer/us/obama_bunch/PDF/main_article_final.pdf

“From Obama’s Mother Back to John Bunch II

“Stanley Ann Dunham’s maternal grandmother, Leona McCurry, was born 7 May 1897, in Peru, Chautauqua County, Kansas.5 Leona was the daughter of Margaret Bell Wright (1869–1935),6 whose mother, Frances Allred (1834–1918),7 was the daughter of Anna Bunch. Anna Bunch was born in Overton County, Tennessee, on 27 March 1814 and died 21 June 1893.8 Her father, Nathaniel Bunch, was born in Louisa County, Virginia, on 23 April 1793 and died in Newton County, Arkansas, on 16 February 1859.9 His father, Charles Bunch, married Mary Bellamy in Louisa County, Virginia, on 9 January 1792.

“Charles’s father, Samuel Bunch, was born circa 1720 in Hanover County, Virginia, and died leaving a will that was proved in Louisa County, Virginia, on 9 June 1783.11 Although Samuel Bunch and his family likely appeared to be white by this time, yDNA evidence proves that Samuel Bunch, his descendants, and his ancestors have sub-Saharan (African) origins.”

1,230 posted on 07/30/2012 8:33:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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New thread to discuss evidence that Barry is the son of Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf...OR...is NOT the son of Stanley Ann Dunham:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2913366/posts

Re:”Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man” Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama’s mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:18:33 PM by Seizethecarp

“Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.” Dr. Ron J. Polland

The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.

In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.

Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?

Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.

For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!

Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.

For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.

The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?

In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.

Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.


1,334 posted on 08/01/2012 2:17:33 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Cross-posted from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2913366/posts?q=1&;page=59

To: Meet the New Boss

“In January 1964, Stanley Ann’s divorce petition alleged that they had a child BHO II. However, Obama Sr. never made answer to the divorce petition and he did not appear at the hearing in March 1964. It is notable that Stanley Ann did not seek child support against Obama Sr.; she may have known she was on shaky ground as to paternity and did not press the matter.”
However, in April or May he told the INS in Baltimore he was “separated” from his wife who was in the Philippines IIRC. This might be further evidence he was trying to intentionally distance himself from both Stanley and Barry and he may not have known about all of the notes in the INS files back in HI. He may not have known he was divorced, given all of the partying he was doing with Ruth on top of his studies. Ruth’s parents were hysterical and calling Harvard and the INS trying to get him kicked out of the country.

Reading your comment about the divorce decree, I am wondering if the reason that child support was not adjudicated was that the BC requested for the divorce by Stanley Ann’s attorney from Kenya never arrived in time, if the new revelation on the Daily Pen that there is one in the Kew, UK BNA (archive) is true indicated by an index of a male baby born to BHO Sr in 1961.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908395/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

“It is now supported by the evidence discovered in the BNA that the Bomford document image from Australia was accessed and used by pro-Obama operatives as a template to alter the image of the Kenyan CCRB image in order to make it appear that “birthers” had created a bad counterfeit of a Kenyan birth record for Obama. This was done by Obama’s forgers to create “shell game” confusion among the public and misdirect media attention from the truth that an original, unaltered Kenyan CCRB, which was never allowed to be publicly seen in its original form before Obama’s forgers were able to access and change it, was actually an image of a legitimate document posted by unknown individuals who were known by Obama to possess the document before hand.

“Essentially, the Bomford affair was just another coverup to hide Obama’s foreign birth records.”

One of the most seductive things about that Bomford BC was that the date it was prepared of February 1964, IIRC, fit it being a document requested for the HI divorce court.

Now Daily Pen says that “an original, unaltered Kenyan CCRB” for Obama was the template for the Bomford forgery “is now supported by the evidence discovered in the BNA.”

If Stanley Ann was hidden away in Kenya to deliver baby Barry, witnesses by Gramma Sarah as she claimed and registered in the colonial records not in the Kew, UK BNA, I think it is highly probable that BHO Sr. would know about that series of events. And he could be very motivated to hide it!

59 posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:07:07 AM by Seizethecarp


1,365 posted on 08/01/2012 10:10:41 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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For all FReepers who have gotten this far in the thread, please note that when an adequate response was not made to my suggestion in comment #631 (partially re-posted below) a new thread was opened to present and discuss evidence the Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf are the parents of Barack H. Obama...or alternatively to present and discuss evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham is NOT his mother.

Here is the name and link to the new thread:

Re:”Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man” Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama’s mom? (vanity)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2913366/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

HERE IS THE PARTIAL RE-POST OF MY COMMENT #631 ON THIS THREAD:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908395/posts?q=1&;page=631

I regard the persistent diversion of eligibility threads off into “SADO is not the mom” wild goose chases to be a form of not just hijacking but trolling. This activity only aides Obama’s team, IMO.

If interested, why not just start an FR thread on the topic of “Are Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf the parents of Barack Obama? and leave the evidence based, forensic eligibility threads on FR alone?

BTW, numerous false claims (claims with no contemporaneous evidence) flow directly from the “Valerie is his mom” cult-like belief. Defense of these claims spam up eligibility threads as well:

1. SADO was never in HI until 1963 and never attended U of HI
2. SADO was never in WA at U of WA
3. BHO Sr. married a Filipina named Ann S. Obama and had a baby first named BHO II, but then changed to Roman Obama.
4. Roman Obama was the baby who was babysat by Mary Toutonghi but in January of 1961, not 1962.
5. Roman Obama (pictured as an adult in Ghana, IIRC and posted on this thread as another hijack) is the “dark boy” in the pictures originally provided by and identified as being Mark Obama.
6. Baby David Obama never existed because it is actually the man now known as BHO II who was in the picture with “dark boy” Roman Obama (where or how is not explained or documented)

All of these six points (and numerous others) appear to have been inserted in the narrative by the Mal and Val crowd to explain away the possibility that Stanley Ann is Barry’s mom.

That helps Obama, IMO whether intentionally or not.

On any eligibility thread where evidence is found or discussed that assumes or supports Stanley Ann as the mom, the Mal and Val FReepers are right there to divert the thread with claims that Stanley couldn’t have been there or wasn’t his mom or here is this bright shiny distracting picture of Malcolm X or Valerie Sarruf.

Can one of you fans of this Mal and Val theory just get your new thread going showing evidence backing your claims?


1,551 posted on 08/05/2012 8:43:14 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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