Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
Months ago, back before he had his own network, Glenn Beck did a show in which he pointed out that - prior to the Democratic nomination, when Hillary was doing well versus Obama, both of them attended a meeting with George Soros. After that meeting Hillary’s campaign stalled, Obama was nominated and here we are.
I know, some people have little respect for Glenn Beck but even a blind hog can root up an occasional acorn.
8/4/1964 BHO turns 3
3/15/1965 SAD marries Lolo Soetoro
6/7/1965 Lolo given 1 year extension to remain in US. Extended to June 20, 1966
7/19/1965 SAD issued renewed passport Passport number F777788
8/4/1965 BHO turns 4
10/15/1965 Anti-communist purges and massacres start in Indonesia. Last until early 1966.
11/30/1965 SADS signs affidavit on hardship. Indicating it would not be a hardship if Lolo departs. Indicates she is living with her parents.
3/15/1966 Anti-communist purges and massacres start in Indonesia mostly end.
3/15/1966 According to Indonesian law SAD is considered an Indonesian citizen. 1 year after marriage foreign wife becomes a citizen UNLESS her husband renounces his Indonesian citizenship. As of this date Indonesia should recognize SAD and BHO II as Indonesian citizens.
7/20/1966 Lolo S returns to Indonesia
8/4/1966 BHO turns 5
9/1/1966 BHO supposedly attends Noelani School in Hawaii during 66-67 school year
3/12/1967 Communist Indonesian leader Sukarno is stripped of power by parliament
3/12/1967 US-backed strong man Suharto is named acting president in Indonesia
6/5/1967 Letter to file indicates SAD will earn degree in Anthropology in August of 1967 and is looking for employment in Indonesia
6/29/1967 Passport F777788 amended to change the name to the married name Stanley Ann Soetoro
8/1/1967 Letter on Lolo S waiver application. “Nothing in the file to document the status of the spouses son
.refernce to 101(b)(1)(B) and 212(a)
” INS is unsure of BHO’s status citizenship wise.
8/4/1967 BHO turns 6 - no longer eligible for easy international Indonesian adoption
8/6/1967 SAD earns BA in Athropology from U of Hawaii
9/14/1967 Letter to file indicating Obama is considered ‘Step-child’ of applicate (Lolo S)
10/6/1967 Letter describing situation the Lolo Soetoro and indicating SADS and child plan to move to Indonesia. Note refers to ‘Step child’. Confirms marriage as March 15, 1965.
10/15/1967 SAD (and BHO?) travels from Honolulu to Jakarta. Note date is not exact.
1/1/1968 Barry Soetoro is registered to attend Franciscan Assisi Primary School and is serial number 203 in class 1B.
3/15/1968 US-backed strong man Suharto is formally elected in Indonesia
8/13/1968 SADS makes early application to REMOVE BHO (Saebarkah) from her passport. She is in Jakarta. Indicates she is planning to stay in Indonesia indefinitely. ***
12/20/1969 Obama is at Noelani elementary school per photo from Scott Inoue.
8/15/1970 Maya Sorento born
12/1/1970 Madelyn Dunham is promoted to bank VP.
10/20/1971 SAD and BHO Jr. leave Indonesia. Supposedly Pan Am flight 812.
10/21/1971 SAD and BHO Jr arrive in Hawaii from Indonesia.
12/15/1971 BHO Senior visits Hawaii for a month.
1/14/1972 SAD returns to Indonesia
7/1/1972 SAD comes back to Hawaii with Maya after leaving Lolo. Date is not exact.
10/3/1972 Lolo Soetoro enters United States
2/28/1974 O’Shea note to Lolo S that he filed non-resident tax form inconsistent with being perm resident
3/11/1974 Lolo writes letter claiming he plans retain US permanent residency
5/1/1974 SADS note to O’Shea asking for consideration to correct 2/28/1974 note. Page 12
5/23/1974 Note filed that Call to SADS made to notify her husband to resubmit his re-entry form. Page 11
Many of dates above came from here:
Thank you SO much. Had had a time line before my computer problems....THis one has so much more details...of course people just kept right on researching while I took a computer vacation.
Now I stay away from threads that distract and have disinformation....can deal with obvious obots better then those who lead us astray.
thanks again....now to save somewhere.
I have never figured out Hague. So please fill in.
Certainly the marriage of Lolo and SAD was blatantly mis-reported in 2008 as being in in 1967 or 1968 - AFTER BHO was 6 years old. But that is not the case. They were married in March of 1965. When he was only 3.
I suspect the 1967/1968 dates were floated out to keep people off the Hague issue.
Here is Indonesia citizenship laws in effect.
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3ae6b4ec8.html
See Article 7 for how/when SAD should have gained her Indonesian citizenship.
See Article 17.c. for why Obama senior paternal status comes in handy if the goal to cut all of BHO II’s ties with Indonesia. So if the BC was still blank before 1971. Someone in Hawaii probably ‘helped’ get it filled in. This would then be shown to Indonesian officials and bingo Obama II is released from Indonesian citizenship. But not as an American, but as a Kenyan. 100%.
Third or fourth paragraph here:
http://bluebeerriver.blogspot.com/2011/05/obama-indonesian-citizenship-makes.html
Interesting material here;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship
You are referring to Prince Philip (the Queen’s Consort), and not Prince William, correct? If the former, then I’m having trouble pulling up any information on a trip made by Philip to the US, especially in the last 2 years. I’m pulling up information about William and Kate’s first tour here in the US, but nothing on Prince Philip. Do you remember where you read about it, or any other info.?
third or fourth FROM the end.....sorry.
Just pinged you to a picture and information on another thread.
The bluebeeriver post should be framed and put on billboards.
There it is. That is the best summarized explanation of the period I have seen.
The known set of facts are:
a) Obama was removed his mothers US passport in August of 1968.
b) No individual US passport or other US passport has ever been presented showing that he held or was named on an other US passport after August of 1968 until he was an adult.
c) Document show is name to be Barry Soetoro and was the legal son of Lolo Soetoro and a citizen of Indonesia.
d) He could not have held ‘dual citizenship’ as the US and Indonesia did not allow that.
e) No evidence of legal immigration has been presented to reflect 1) loss of Inodensian citizenship 2) naturalization as a US citizen and 3) Legal name change from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama.
The directly linked websites (Fight the Smears, etc.) have never used the words ‘natural born Citizen’. They use the words ‘native born’. It is not legally possible for a person to be both a natural born Citizen and a naturalized citizen. In mathematical set theory terminology these would be called non-intersecting sets. It is impossible to belong to both sets simultaneously.
The status of ‘natural born Citizen’ is not just ‘at birth’. It is ‘from birth’. The adjective ‘born’ means ‘from birth’. Given the Indonesian situation Obama has not been a citizen ‘from birth’ and would have had to naturalize to re-aquire US citizenship. Just a Berg states. Once you lose your citizenship you ARE no longer a ‘natural born Citizen’. You are then an alien. When you regain your citizenship THROUGH NATURALIZATION you are then a naturalized citizen. If you were born the US you may get away with claiming ‘native born’ status. Legally there is not differentiation so who really cares if ‘native’ is used vs. ‘naturalized’.
The reason Berg and the rest of can not find an proof of naturalization is simple. The non-intersecting sets of ‘natural born’ and ‘naturalized’ status would make it crystal clear that if Obama formally naturalized at some point - be it 1971 or 1983 or any other time this fact would automatically cause a constitutional crisis since it would be without a shred of doubt that he failed to meet Article II, Section 1 requirements.
It is not where he was born. It is that he had to NATURALIZE after his return in 1971.
Trump is missing the mark (maybe intentionally) with the call for college records. They may or may not have critical information (probably do). But it is the records from 1966 - 1972 that would provide insight into the issue of naturalization. Maybe Trump wants to walk the shells into the target. But the target should be INS records from 1966-1972 and possibly up through 1983.
Sven says the naturalization took place in 1983. If you put his name in user search he give more details. He has not produced materials to back up his statements which frustrates many here. Either he cannot or will not but if you have resources to check them out you may be able to follow through.
start at 162 to end of thread.
You may NOT want to share this with everyone....be selective.
OTOH some have disappeared from the threads since the British Archive material was posted.
My take on the powers that know, protecting the powers that be in the USA. I dont want to forget some who may be interested, so, I’ll copy the ping list....................
LibertyRocks,
A summary of your posts to me is questioning why our allies; namely, the UK and their MI6 arent helping with 0b0z0’s birthplace thats on record in their archives, especially in the wake of Joe Arpiao’s confirmation of 0b0z0’s parading of a forged BC.
I hear you, loud and clear. To answer your question(s), here’s my take on “the hidden documented info” on 0b0z0.
Here are some thoughts and analysis:
I believe that the governments and the intelligence services of the UK, Israel, Kenya, China and Russia, KNOW THE TRUTH AND HAVE THE GOODS ON 0B0Z0!
1- The UK and Israel HATE 0b0z0, however, they can’t take the chance in creating a disastrous turmoil in the USA. 0b0z0’s communists/name du jour groups, including but not limited to Blacks, illegal aliens, union thugs, environmentalists, welfare recipients and moon bats of all species will be rioting and burning the country down. That would lead to CW II and Martial Law, resulting in suspension of freedoms including postponing the elections indefinitely.
A devastated USA is NOT in their or our other allies interest. NATO will also suffer and financial markets will crash leading to a world crisis.
2- Kenya loves him because theyre very proud of their “son,” the POTUS. It’s their ego and the avalanche of money that they’re getting under the table without Congress approval. IIRC, sometime ago, I read that in some threads on FR about those “payments” that are surely pocketed by the powers that be in Kenya.
3- China and Russia would prop up the weakest and dumbest POTUS ever and to top it, 0b0z0 is more communist than they are and IS methodically destroying their archenemy, YES I SAID ENEMY NOT COMPETITOR, JUST ASK OUR MILITARY!) They know that this superpower can’t be destroyed through competition and free economy and Capitalism can’t be destroyed by competition against the vastly inferior communist and socialist economies!
Why remove their MOLE who already destroyed the US allies and protected its enemies in the Middle East? Why remove the ONE who handed power to sworn US enemies, the Islamist species, with the Muslim Brotherhood wining the lions share and the big prize, EGYPT?
Why remove the back-stabber-in-chief who dissed and dumped our new Eastern European allies?
Why remove the reason for the debt that China is buying to enslave us? Why remove the reason for the coming mayhem that may give China a chance to take Taiwan with no opposition from an America that features the meekest cowardly POTUS who wouldnt dare do anything except apologize for the dead Chinese soldiers?
Its obvious that the only way to destroy the USA IS FROM THE INSIDE. (See the Communist Manifesto and check how it is closely followed and executed by Soross orders through Jarrett and the Wookie who are the strings that control the teleprompter-operated puppet called 0b0z0.)
Add to all of the above, the “American” cowards who both know and don’t want to investigate, or simply, DON’T WANT TO KNOW! Those are the Congress critters, Republicans and democrats (lets not forget the Klintoons in the 08 primaries) AND the judiciary; the courts headed by the SCOTUS, cowards ALL!
None of the above could have ever happened without the enabling and the protection by Public Enemy Number 1, the American media. The wrath of patriots should be directed at them and the media traitors should experience the same suffering as we will when TSHF!
Thats why I always called for uncovering 0b0z0s education records, which is a local American effort with no international intrigue and foreign shenanigans. Those records would finish 0b0z0s era in no time, if ever published.
Sorry for the longest post I’ve ever written!
No apologies necessary. Thanks.
You and bluecat are both on target
Good work on target. Thanks!
good rant!
President Obama’s birth doctor, James Ang’awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang’awa (Dr. James Ang’awa’s daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith
Posted on Saturday, 6 March 2010 2:56:12 PM by InspectorSmith
Dr Ang’awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.
Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang’awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. “I have forgiven you,” she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang’awa.
One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang’awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2465278/posts
One of your best posts, mel. Thank you.
blue cat, retracing steps here. Read the first fifty or so posts on the thread Fred linked to.....
Fred make sure you see the first link I sent to Blue and his comments above.
“Stay focused” must be out new motto. The birth record confirmed in the British Archives tells us we were on track at the beginning. Circle back around and keep our eye on the target. Who the biological parents were does NOT matter. THe parents of record is all that counts now.
That’s probably the best synopsis I’ve ever read on the subject.
The only thing missing is the domestic fear of black/OWS engineered riots.
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