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HOW GREAT a Man Was Thomas Jefferson...?
Reaganite Republican ^ | July 11 , 2012 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 07/11/2012 6:49:39 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

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1 posted on 07/11/2012 6:49:44 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: ken5050

*** Personal PING ***


2 posted on 07/11/2012 6:56:02 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican

Bttt!


3 posted on 07/11/2012 7:03:24 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Reaganite Republican

You forgot some items:

Inventor
Father of the Library of Congress
Kicker of Muslim ass

Was he perfect? Far from it, as with all men he was flawed, but he was a giant who moved and lived with other giants of the time. We are blessed as a country that when we needed them the giants were ours.


4 posted on 07/11/2012 7:08:51 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: Reaganite Republican

So many of the lessons of failure they knew then we practice today.


5 posted on 07/11/2012 7:13:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Thanks RR. What we have today is everything this great genius warned against. Way to go lefties!


6 posted on 07/11/2012 7:20:13 AM PDT by daletoons (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

How great? Lived WAY beyond his means, constantly in debt. Died without freeing any of his slaves. Amazing? Yes. Great? Not so much.


7 posted on 07/11/2012 7:37:09 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Reaganite Republican

One of my heros. Thanks!


8 posted on 07/11/2012 7:42:12 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf
Not the father of Sally Hemmings children.

His Nephew was the father.

As much as blacks hate the founders it amazes me how they want to be related to Thomas Jefferson

9 posted on 07/11/2012 7:46:03 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: Reaganite Republican

One of my favorites: he taught himself Spanish so he could read Maciavelli in its native language-—or so I read. He also launched the first “
War on Terror” with only a joint resolution and said “those who aren’t with us are with the Bey of Tripoli,” or words to that effect.


10 posted on 07/11/2012 7:46:34 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: daletoons
What we have today is everything this great genius warned against. Way to go lefties!

And yet the lefties claim him as one of their own!

11 posted on 07/11/2012 7:49:07 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

No doubt he was a genius and one of the great founders but there are some warts that go along with him.

While he was part of the genius behind the Declaration, he was purposely kept as ambassador to France, keeping him and his egalitarian, democratic ideas away from the creation of our Constitution and Republic.

“At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington” and as SoS he and his supporters did everything possible to undermine the Washington administration. They even secretly bought a newspaper through which they channeled vindictive propaganda pieces excoriating Washington’s policies and the man personally.

Following that approach to his political rivals “At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of the Democratic-Republican Party”, a party that while it had the name Republican in it was in no way shape or form Republican in thought or action. The Democratic-Republican party was later rechartered as the Democrat Party of the United States; that traitorous entity that has done so much over the years to undermine our constitutional republic.

He was a genius and overall a patriot, but his actions in some cases were not in keeping with the tenents of our Constitution with which he did not agree and was probably frustrated with because he had no real part in the formulation.


12 posted on 07/11/2012 7:51:00 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Had he lived 50 years later instead of hero, he would have been labeled a dirty rebel an evil slave holding secesionist by the Free Republic Neo Unionist Society i.e. Lincoln Coven. THe hypocrisy of history.


13 posted on 07/11/2012 7:53:50 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: PzLdr
Excellent points and good summary. He was also a rumor-monger and started the rumor that then President Washington was demented. Washington called him on it, Jefferson denied it (Washington knew it to be true) and Washington would never inhabit the same room with Jefferson for the rest of his life.

I will say this: he was a better president than one might have expected.

14 posted on 07/11/2012 7:55:22 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: RJS1950

THe Louisianna Purchase was probably unconstitutional. Nobody objected at the time.


15 posted on 07/11/2012 7:55:22 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

It probably was and there was objection after the fact; primarily I think because it was done on the sly and involving a large sum of money during a time that we didn’t have all that much in our treasury. It didn’t take too long for most to realize that it was the right thing to do and that the financial rewards to the nation and commerce far outweighed the points of dissent.


16 posted on 07/11/2012 8:15:21 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: central_va

It was clearly unconstitutional and Jefferson admitted it, but he did it anyway.


17 posted on 07/11/2012 8:16:20 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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If the No Penalty Robert’s court were to rule on the Louisianna Purchase it would be found Constitutional, no doubt.


18 posted on 07/11/2012 8:21:35 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; RJS1950

As RJS1950 points out, there wasn’t much in the way of organized objection to the purchase so it likely wouldn’t have been as politically charged an issue before the court. But generally speaking I agree that roberts would have found a way to screw the pooch.


19 posted on 07/11/2012 8:27:05 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Pharmboy

As vice president to Adams...undermined Adams too. John Adams is my guy.


20 posted on 07/11/2012 8:44:19 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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