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To: Starman417

Consider the below examples I came up with now totally legitimate under Roberts’ treasonous decision. This does not even scratch the surface of the congress’ new powers:

Apple lobbies obama and the congress to force people to buy an ipad as part of an “education law” or face a tax penalty - legal

Ruger lobbies Romney to force Americans to buy firearms and take self defense classes under ‘anti-Crime” law or face a tax - legal

Chevy wants to recoup its losses from the bailout by lobbying congress to force us to buy a volt or face a tax - legal

Solyndra lobbies obama to force americans to buy its solar panels under new “Environmental Law” or face a tax - legal

NYSC lobbies Romney to force people to buy gym memberships under new “Anti-Obesity” law or face a tax - legal

Monsanto lobbies Obama to force american to buy tomatos, salads, etc under new “Safe Food” law or face a tax - legal

Trek lobbies the congress and president to force people to by a mountain bike as part of “anti-obesity” law or face a tax - legal

Valvoline lobbies president and congress to mandate proof of oil changes in your car every 4,000 miles as part of “transportation law” or face a tax - legal

American Standard lobbies president and congress to by new toilet bowl w new tech as part of “safe water” act or face a tax - legal

Johnson and Johnson lobbies congress to force women to use “green tampons” as part of a “environmental law” or face a tax, legal

National Assoc. of Realtors lobbies Romney and the Congress as part of a “Economic Growth Law” to force Homeowners to purchase mandatory home warranty for 5 years - Legal

See where this is going folks? Roberts is a traitor as he almost single handidly made us slaves this week to literally anything these thugs in the congress want to compel us into.


8 posted on 06/30/2012 12:04:30 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

One of the points the four dissenters made was to complain that the Court did not sufficiently deliberate the legality of Roberts’ tax analysis, in particular under the direct tax clause of the Constitution.

All of the examples you give, as well as the new Roberts Tax under Obamacare, are in fact a direct (or “capitation” tax) combined with a class exemption.

The tax is assessed on everyone for simply existing, for simply breathing in and out, and then there is an exemption for people who do the specified thing (buy an ipad, buy health insurance, etc). Such a tax is known as a direct or capitation tax, in this case with an exemption. Such a tax may only be imposed by Congress if it is apportioned under the census.

I don’t believe under established and proper canons of statutory construction that the government can lawfully assess a capitation tax that is otherwise unconstitutional simply by tacking on an exemption for a portion of the population from the capitation tax based on their behavior. They cannot transform an unlawful capitation tax into a lawful tax simply by attaching a category of exemption.

Roberts was too busy being too clever by half to do a proper legal analysis under the direct tax of the Constitution and the dissent was right to claim that the analysis was rushed out the door without sufficient deliberation.


28 posted on 06/30/2012 12:33:00 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: GlockThe Vote

Yes!
Yes!
Yes!

All the boards I’m on I’m arguing with people who don’t get it: the US Congress can now make us buy ******ANYTHING****** and it’s legal as long as they call it a “tax”.

I can’t BELIEVE the arguments I’m getting from “conservatives” who don’t understand how their government now has COMPLETELY LIMITLESS power!

I feel like I’m losing my mind!

Are there only 5 or 6 of us who get it?

The Republic (as most people understand it) is GONE. We are now a neo-feudal society living at the whims of our government.

So what if we win in Nov? In 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 years the libs will be back and they’ll be able to use this ruling to do anything they want. :(


38 posted on 06/30/2012 12:59:49 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Obama is lobbied to force people to buy ill-fated long-term Treasury Bonds in their 401K’s. Five years later, interest rates go up from 2% to 4% and the bonds lose half their value.


46 posted on 06/30/2012 1:16:30 PM PDT by expat2
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