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What John Roberts really did for us
Flopping Aces ^ | 06-30-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/30/2012 11:52:15 AM PDT by Starman417

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To: Starman417

Great finds
Damn there is so much ammunition that can be used against him

Probably going to be up to the PACS to do it


41 posted on 06/30/2012 1:06:01 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: library user

Yes but people won’t even see them for another year...


42 posted on 06/30/2012 1:07:52 PM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: All

obama gets everything he wants. Even the Clintons bow down to him.


43 posted on 06/30/2012 1:10:16 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: library user; fantail 1952

I’ve seen some of the same arguments posted here. I want to believe, but I’m not convinced yet.

One thing is for certain, Robert’s decision was unexpected on many levels. I’m still in shock. But I’m still trying to see the “silver lining”. Maybe only time will tell.

Hopefully, I’ll be shocked at the Republican convention when a true conservative wins the nomination and steamrolls through the election with a majority in the House and the Senate.


44 posted on 06/30/2012 1:13:34 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: OwenKellogg
They think because Roberts called this a tax, it makes Obama a liar, and this will cause Romney to get elected becasue Mr. Obama is breaking a 2008 campaign pledge not to raise taxes on Americans earning less than $250,000. No sale...

The government imported tens of millions of foreigners, millions of illegals most of which have zip health insurance..This is not to mention there are now tens of millions of Americans who lost their jobs, heath insurance etc, who will see this as a good thing!

45 posted on 06/30/2012 1:16:30 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Obama is lobbied to force people to buy ill-fated long-term Treasury Bonds in their 401K’s. Five years later, interest rates go up from 2% to 4% and the bonds lose half their value.


46 posted on 06/30/2012 1:16:30 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Pollster1

Thank you for asking.

There are several reasons that come to mind, but I will offer a few for starters: 1) by declaring the mandate fines a tax, it makes it far easier for a new executive and a new congress to repeal. When, and it is now whether but when, the Republican party gets a majority, preferably cloture proof, in the senate, and the new President is inaugurated, it only takes a simple majority to totally repeal PPAC. If in the unlikely event that the Dems retain either the Senate majority, or the WH, the House can stall it forever by refusing to fund it.

2) It forces Obama to defend Obamacare AS A TAX, and the Democraps down-ballot to either distance themselves from the issue in order to save their own skins, or to stand with him in defendinding the indefesible and suffering the same fate as he earns.

3) This decision has energized the TEA parties like no other way could. What was the single greatest factor in the landslide of 2010? It was Obamacare’s riling a hornets nest of public sentiment. Further, a vast majority of libertarians (likely including Ron Paul himself), independants, and more than a few democrats will be happy to vote to remove Zero from office, which will also enhance the down ballot a bit.

Chief Justice John Roberts did, indeed act bravely at the peril of his own personal reputation and credibility. For that, he is to be commended, and in the future, hopefully honored.
My only criticism of him is that he voted politically rather than judicially, but his sacrafice of his queen likely enabled a checkmate of Obama and company.


47 posted on 06/30/2012 1:20:12 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (Common sense policy: Help your friends. Whip your enemies. Sort out the rest later.)
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To: fantail 1952

It forces nothing on the lying little bastard commie. He is already lying to the liberal minions and has his staff doing it also. What the pirate Roberts did was follow orders. He cares not a whit that his action further denegrates our Constitution and further endentures millions to the leftist agenda which is to bring about a collpase of the insurnace system and usher in single payer healthcare under the globalist agenda to reduce population. Robrts is a traitorous creep. He even joked about the outrage he has caused, so we know he is amused rather than worried. He works for the globalist agenda.


48 posted on 06/30/2012 1:24:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Tzimisce

Add me to your list of people who get it.

Even the election of Romney and the overturning of the Obamacare act will not change the fact that this legitimizes a tax for anything.

The Supreme Court decision must be overturned, as well as the act.


49 posted on 06/30/2012 1:39:52 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Starman417

Robert could have called Obamacare a tax but still struck it down as Congress has no authority to tax inactivity.

Instead he just created a massive new power for Congress to abuse and it created it from whole cloth, out of nothing. There is not a single word about this new Congressional power to tax inactivity in the US Constitution, which is why the scum idiot commie libs have never tried to tax inactivity before in our 230 year history.


50 posted on 06/30/2012 1:41:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Starman417

51 posted on 06/30/2012 1:45:00 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Tzimisce

Now it’s illegal to go Galt.


52 posted on 06/30/2012 1:48:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: fantail 1952
Chief Justice John Roberts did, indeed act bravely at the peril of his own personal reputation and credibility. For that, he is to be commended, and in the future, hopefully honored.

I suspect all your wonderful praise for Roberts is premature at best.

You say: If we get a majority in the Senate and Congress... If Romney is elected and if he repeals it and if he has support? Ya say the Tea Party is energized? Where were they when this was all being developed?

Lots of big ifs.

What about the tens of millions of foreigners, millions of illegals, most of which have zip health insurance?..What about the tens of millions of Americans who lost their jobs, health benefits, or the millions who are now underemployed and had their heath insurance reduced to near worthlessness if they still have benefits?

Ya think they will not see this as a benefit?

53 posted on 06/30/2012 1:50:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: fantail 1952
My only criticism of him is that he voted politically rather than judicially, but his sacrafice of his queen likely enabled a checkmate of Obama and company

I thought his oath of office required him to rule according to the Constitution, rather than gaming the results.

How do you justify supporting someone breaking their solemn oath?

54 posted on 06/30/2012 1:57:56 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Starman417

And yet another article telling us how this was a “good” thing for conservatives. No, killing this POS legislation on Thursday would have been good for conservatives.


55 posted on 06/30/2012 2:02:09 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Starman417

ObamacarePenalty or ObamacareTax. It just seems like semantics to me. What am I missing?


56 posted on 06/30/2012 2:03:27 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Starman417
Once again, a completely idiotic rationalization.

The same results could have been achieved if the traitorous coward simply would have done his job and tossed this travesty out.

This “silver lining” bullshit is yet another meek response from the right. We simply bend over and let them have their way with us.

Mark my words, without the threat of direct violence, these assholes will continue down the same path. Anyone who believes things will turn around via the ballot box are simply avoiding reality, IMO.

57 posted on 06/30/2012 2:10:16 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: fantail 1952

You are very wise in seeing through just how Brilliant Roberts was in this. Time will indeed be in his favor.


58 posted on 06/30/2012 2:14:07 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: annieokie

Boy, I am bookmarking this and I’ll check back in about 12 short months.


59 posted on 06/30/2012 2:21:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: annieokie
In the long run we're all dead.

I'd just as soon live out my years with personal liberty and the ability to do things for myself without being taxed on my own labors directly benefiting myself and family.

60 posted on 06/30/2012 2:30:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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