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FReep this Poll: What Will Happen with ObamaCare?
Pundit Press ^ | 6/28/12 | Aurelius

Posted on 06/28/2012 5:41:50 AM PDT by therightliveswithus

The verdict that the Supreme Court of the United States will release about ObamaCare is arguably their most important decision in decades. Can the government force people to buy a service that they do not necessarily want? Can the government force people to buy other things just because they deem it necessary?

More than just questions about health care, the SCOTUS decision on ObamaCare has large implications on the 2012 elections. Democrats, including President Obama, have already started to attack the court, attempting to limit the damage that an unfavorable ruling will have. But will a confirmation of Mr. Obama's legislation give his campaign a boost?

All of these questions will be answered, at least in part, at 10 am. At the moment, however, you can voice your opinion on what the SCOTUS will decide. Will the entire law go down? Will it be upheld? Will the individual mandate alone fall?

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: obamacare

1 posted on 06/28/2012 5:41:56 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: therightliveswithus

I predict there will be much sadness...

2 posted on 06/28/2012 5:46:26 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: therightliveswithus

In a sane world, Obamacare wouldn’t have a chance at being upheld. The fact that it might says volumes on what this country has become. The very idea that a govt can force its citizens to buy something is very foreign to our republic and sets a terrible precedence. If they keep the mandate, then what will be next that they will be allowed to force us to buy? Electric cars? Solar Panels for your homes??? Its a horrible slope to go down, today could make that difference.

3 posted on 06/28/2012 5:46:42 AM PDT by eak3
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To: eak3

It is all irrelevant. Regardless of the outcome, the infrastructure for the program has already been implemented, HHS has written rules and thousands of people have been hired.

No one, especially in an election year is going to rip this thing apart. Obama got what he wanted. He got a damaged program that will be a money suck on the economy.

This entire program was nothing more than Cloward Piven on steroids. While the economy collapses and more people flood a broken system with no controls in place, the wealthy will make a boatload of money while being exempt, the poor will have another free program and the rest of us are going to pay for it till we are either poor, or rich.

In other words, this is the final nail in the coffin of the middle class.

4 posted on 06/28/2012 6:07:11 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: eak3

I fear a requirement to purchase term life insurance, naming the U.S. Treasury as the beneficiary. That would comport neatly with the decisionmaking “logic” of the coming death panels of Obamacare.

5 posted on 06/28/2012 6:11:58 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: VRWCarea51

“I predict there will be much sadness...”

Me too, but not for us or this Grand Nation

6 posted on 06/28/2012 6:16:16 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Things aren't as good as they should be and its Obama's fault, the resident said)
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To: therightliveswithus
I put "other":

SCOTUS will strike it down, POTUS will ignore the ruling.

7 posted on 06/28/2012 6:17:49 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: All

8 posted on 06/28/2012 6:25:49 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: therightliveswithus

The whole law will get tossed because there is not enough pretzel logic on earth to find the mandate constitutional. And there is no severability clause. And there is no way in hell the Court is going to wade through a 3000 page bill to try and create one.

The result will be much wailing, crying, and stamping of feet, culminating in a long-range Leftist plan to undermine the Supreme Court (an FDR court packing scheme or something similar). It will become the Bush v Gore Bloody Shirt of the next decade.

Electorally though it will actually help Obama, as it will remove a huge unpopular albatross from around his neck. It will also get the Catholic Church to shut up about the mandate and many Catholics will go back to voting Democrat.

9 posted on 06/28/2012 6:29:51 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: therightliveswithus

I think it’s pathetic that something like this was even sent to SCOTUS. It shouldn’t have passed in the first place. They didn’t even read it before voting. Travesty.

Obama is the most corrupt and UNconstitutional resident we’ve ever had, and his minions are just as bad. I hope it is struck down.

Rhis will be the one and only time I would like to see the look on Pelosid face when obamacare is seruck down. The woman is detestible.

10 posted on 06/28/2012 6:39:38 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I agree. Personally, I believe the only ghost of chance conservatives have is to seperate ourselves from the wholesale parts of the existing USA that seems to enthusiastically want this socialism; or in other words.....secession. Call it whatever name you want, we will never return this country to it’s constitutional self again having to fight against the leftist machine that has entrenched itself deep in parts of the existing USA.

11 posted on 06/28/2012 6:46:33 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: mardi59

I predict only the mandate will be struck down and it will be a 5/4 vote.

That seemed to be the issue that received the most comments during the hearings.

It HAS to be struck down, otherwise Congress will force us to buy all sorts of things in the future!

12 posted on 06/28/2012 6:50:39 AM PDT by a real Sheila ("Vado a bordo, cazzo!")
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To: therightliveswithus
People who are reasonably informed about the Supreme Court and the biographies of the Justices are informed enough to be reluctant to go public with predictions.

We can, however, comment on the predilections of many of the Justices. Identifying the predilections of the Justices on the left side of the court is easy: the four left-wing justices will work backwards from their ideological worldview and distort the Constitution enough to arrive at the desired predetermined result.

The four conservative Justices will look at the facts and the law and lay them down next to the Constitution and apply their best judgment as to its original intent, having due consideration for precedent to arrive at a finding about constitutionality. The evidence is they will engage in this intellectual exercise honestly and, if the exercise leads them to a conclusion unfavorable to a conservative worldview, they will nevertheless so hold. In this respect their intellectual honesty distinguishes them from the left wing judges.

The last Justice, Justice Kennedy, is conventionally believed to be intellectually honest but intellectually and ideologically incoherent. That is, he is not dishonest as are the four ideologically driven left-wingers but he is utterly eclectic and vulnerable to the temptation to seize upon ad hoc fixes. Thus he becomes at once the swing justice and the justice most difficult to pigeonhole which means the Justice most difficult to predict.

A quick word about the law, no one can say that the individual mandate is constitutional if viewed in the context of original intent. On the other hand, no intellectually honest person can say that the individual mandate is necessarily unconstitutional if it is judged according to its place in the stream of precedents.

It is the tragedy of this process that the left has so politicized our jurisprudence that it is come down to the selection of Justices rather than the meaning of the Constitution. It is a pity that conservatives enter this fray handicapped by their own naïveté, a naïve belief in the rule of law and the original meaning of the Constitution. Thus, we take an intellectual knife to a gunfight with liberals who are in no wise inhibited in their remorseless quest for power by scruples over the meaning of the Constitution, the rule of law, or stare decisis.

13 posted on 06/28/2012 6:51:05 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: a real Sheila

It HAS to be struck down, otherwise Congress will force us to buy all sorts of things in the future!

Agreed. I hope the whole thing is thrown back in obama, pelosi and reids faces.

14 posted on 06/28/2012 6:54:17 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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